Episode 285 | Drake First Week Numbers, Tik Tok & Universal's New Deal, Enhancement Olympics, plus more

In this episode of the Faces of the Future Podcast Millz and Rocket are back for the Memorial Day episode. First they discuss Drake's first week numbers and debate who had the best albums between Kendrick, J.Cole, and Drake. Next they discuss what is next for the music industry as artists continue to try and break free and go indpendent. Then they discuss Tik Tok and Universal's new deal and what this means for artists going direct to consumer along with Spotify's new ticket feature for loyal listeners. Finally the guys give their thoughts on enhancement olympics and Aidan Ross's fight card, plus more.,

Transcript

SPEAKER_05 0:52

How we doin' today? You know the boy, this is the boy Millie. I rockin' in the building with me.

SPEAKER_07 1:04

Two four bitch, I'm great like Cob. You ain't gang, you remind me of. We haven't a great memorial day. No she fucked me. Just the vibes we on. Stolin. Remember when I had tails in the road. Think it better than your pops. You should have been my kids. Get it dyed. Nigga, take them guns up the flicks. We ain't fighting. You know I'm really cold with the stake. I ain't lying, I'm just living so my kids straight. If your circle thing broke, then it's stay away. If you see me out of town, I was doublin'. Don't believe I hide these niggas ballin' off settlements. This shit ain't fun, we don't got your real niggas with you. I want my real niggas gone, I'm left for fake niggas. That's why I don't tell my stories, cause it's pain. I promise if they ever play, then they can't hear me. Tell the truth, man. Tell the truth, before the truth, they gon' lie to me. I'm the truth and I ain't gon' lie to you. Before I tell you the ride, nigga, I'm gonna lie with you.

SPEAKER_01 2:11

It's just the energy. Turn up with us. She would have pee in the lid. Shout out Jersey, shout out Philly. Okay, gotta go get it a mock. Shout out to the finishy league, shout out to the compound. You know, it's been on the butch, like a butcher, but you nigga. When I shit up on it, just get back to the book. Let me make them put a nigga in the joke. Yeah, I just said they wanna be low. Maybe we can put a money. You niggas stick to the pillow. She would have been a lid.

SPEAKER_05 3:37

Hope y'all feelin' the energy out there. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe on the beach, maybe you in the rain.

SPEAKER_02 3:44

I don't even know. I just begin to. Just pop out with us. Just mention up in my host, but you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03 3:53

It's for the real music lovers only. Real music lovers only. I was moving too fast. The condo, I was moving too fast. I was moving too fast. I was moving too fast. My kid mealy, I was moving too fast. Number one of these. I just bought another killing. I hope she didn't deserve it. It's the one that won't come with me, she gets new furnaces. Put a cooper now and get it from out to go. We go back the wish, nigga. I'm just understanding spinning hiding in front of my mother. These bitches might try to get revenge, go on the fuck my brother. What he said, bitchy wagging I was a little bit too fast. I'm the story because I was moving too fast. There's a lot to discuss. Let's get into it. Roller 300.

SPEAKER_05 5:34

Welcome to episode 285 of the Faces of the Future Podcast.

SPEAKER_04 5:38

It's your boy Mills. I got Rockin' in the building with me today. How you doing today? We back. Another week of the boy. You know what I'm saying? Another week. You said another week what? Of the boy. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. The record just the records just gets hard. It gets better and better every time. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You was right. I mean, the clip that's the clip that you're saying is getting a lot of engagement right now, too. I mean, yeah. You're talking about it agreeing with you. That's neither here nor there. I'm just I'm not just saying they're agreeing with you. Yeah, nah, that's what I mean. If they where they are, they aren't. I'm still gonna stand on what I say. I feel that bitch. I mean, you know what I mean? You said you said it was gonna grow on the masses. It's definitely, hell yeah. And it's definitely growing on the masses when it comes to the when it comes to the music, you feel me? That shit just it's it's it's on the type of time to where it's like it continues to get more powerful and powerful. Yeah, I mean, after after a week, after a week out um of the of the of the albums, all the albums dropping, um, has your has your s your top songs still stay the same, or is other songs like grown on you when it comes to like alright, this is maybe a little higher up than I thought it was, it's a better record than I thought it was. I mean the songs that I said last week, I think it was, right? Yeah. They're still up there. Yeah. They're still they're still up there for sure. Um, I mean, I'll say National Treasures. National Treasures grew on you? Yeah, it started to grow on me even more. Um I'm not gonna lie to you. When I first listened to the project, as much as everybody liked uh like the future Molly Santana record, that was that joint that joint grew on me. At first I wasn't like the biggest fan of it. I'm not gonna lie to you. Nah, I say slides. No, it's slides, it's slides. I'm saying the second half? Yeah, but my first listen through, I'm just like, it's good, it's a good record, but it just wasn't like in my top, one of my top joints. You feel me? But like now. Did you see with wait, when was the first time you looked at it?

SPEAKER_00 7:21

Listen to it.

SPEAKER_04 7:21

I'm talking about when we first when I first dropped, I'm talking about like when we did our first listen. I'm saying, do you see like the video with it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think with the video with that shit made it like 10 times like crazy. That shit looked late. That joke's hard. That joint's hard. Hell yeah. But like I said, the Janice record, that's still, that's still like Janice and Little Birdie the top two for me right now. No, for sure. Janice is definitely up there too. I'd agree. Yeah, I agree. I definitely agree. That that joined um uh the intro shit slides too. Yeah, yeah. What do you think about there's a lot of there's a lot of um, since we're talking about the we'll go into like the album cells and stuff like that, but they were Oh, they got the first week out? Yeah, the first week out. Oh shit, I don't even know. Yeah, I'm I'm I'm we're gonna get into that in a second, but there was there was um like a clip going around about like how um artists nowadays are pushing their records through like you know how people have clip farms for um like the live streams and stuff like that. They have like these these apps and these databases where like the artists will submit a song and then a bunch of these like TikTok or streamers and stuff like that, they have accounts on there, and they get paid by how many views they get. So that's how that's a new way of like marketing the music. That's why you see like a lot of things. You know what's crazy? So it's like an organ it's like almost like a a created like chaos creator, like push for certain records to know what's crazy. Uh a good fellow of of ours on some like damn near at this point, two, three years ago, he knows exactly how I'm talking about. Because we always be scheming and shit like that when it comes to shit like this. Um he was saying exactly that. There's definitely like a they call it a pod to where it's like you can just submit your music and then it's like that group of whether it be like TikTok or streamer, whatever, they'll react to it or and and do whatever with the fucking song. You know what I'm saying? Right, right. So I was I the thing that that kind of like made me think about it more is you see you saw how like certain songs from the album were getting pushed like crazy, whether it'd be like all of a sudden like a day later, everybody already had video like TikToks and them dancing to certain records is whatever. Do you think they preload that shit? That's what I'm saying. They probably did that way in advance and then like a day later to to to build that. I won't call it like organic, um organic uh like push marketing, but it's more so just like you're seeding it. It yeah, you're seeing the record in the algorithm. So it's like, oh now we want to now like say like every day people are oh I'm gonna make a dance video to to Janus, I'm gonna make a dance video to like Lil Birdie or something like that. After you see like so many people make it to it, it becomes a trend. Yeah, no, yeah, no, that's what I'm saying. You're definitely seeding it. Um, do you think you'll see like more people start doing that, using these like clip hubs, clip finds? I think people been doing it, to be honest with you. Yeah, that's the I don't think this is I personally I mean unless shit. I'm not saying I'm anybody special, but like I feel like that type of method of you know having a song and just passing it to the streamers or finding a a pod to where there's people that are trying to become streamers, you gotta think about it. If you have a bunch of people that have, let's say, 10k followers on Instagram, whether they be real or fake, whatever the case may be, and then you can pass it to them. They all have like 10k. I mean, what is that up to? Yeah. Versus having that one big streamer. Eventually you probably but that might go to that one big streamer's algorithm. He might write react to it just not saying off the strength, but just because it might be just good music. It could be off the strength because it's like, oh, all these all these other people are making this music. It must be a good record, so I'm gonna I'm gonna make a reaction or something to it as well. Yeah, but then that becomes organic, then it does it not organic as that. It does after that point. After that point, it definitely does become organic because that's not isn't seating laying a foundation too. It is, it is. I don't think there's anything wrong with it. I'm just I'm just saying in terms of like this route because a lot of people didn't realize like those are things that were going on behind the closed doors. Like obviously you people know you can advertise on like Facebook, you can advertise on like TikTok, like pushing like your ads and stuff, but a lot of people know there are like those pods behind doors where there's like apps you can like, all right. I want this song to go viral, so and I have this amount of budget, say I have like 10k or whatever it is. I have 10k to put to put up to pay whatever influencer gets the most views or whatever, so like they get paid per view or whatever. So now they're really trying to push that content. Like you said, the downside algorithm. Yeah, I mean, like the best way is getting a bunch of influencers, like 10 of them, yeah, that don't have the hugest following, meaning like under 20,000, yeah, and just clip make them clip form through that with your music. Because it's probably gonna get out there faster versus that one. I mean, I'm not saying that one, but I mean you gotta pay top dollars to get to that one. Yeah. And and the clipping, like on the other side, outside of the artist side, but the actual clipping side, I think it's like a billion-dollar business. Hell yeah, it's a billion-dollar business. You gotta think, if you can get a bunch of people just to react to your shit, like it's gonna, like you said, it's gonna create that organic f following to gravitate to your page. Yeah, because it says, and I'm I'm talking about more so just like, yeah, like I'm saying, like, like you said, the the the clipping is a multi-billion dollar business at this point. Um, it has evolved into like a uh enterprise that finally drives like modern audience growth and marketing for the internet streaming, streaming industry. So I mean, that's how we see, you know how like a lot of like we don't really watch sit there and watch the streams of like say um like uh i show speed or whatever is mostly the clips everywhere. Like that's more effective, that's more effective than the live streaming, in my opinion. I think so too. I think so too. But I mean what did you say? I was gonna say, but it but it helps people go and watch that live stream too. Nah, it's an ad. Yeah, that's all it is. It's just really just an ad. Yeah. Like for yourself. You know what I mean? Like, I mean, most people are not sitting there watching that two-hour stream, whether it's live or broadcasted. Yeah, I'm you know what I'm saying? They're gonna either if they are watching it, they're gonna break that shit down. They might watch 20 minutes and then come back to it three months later because they see a fucking algorithm drawn that pops up in their YouTube or Facebook or Instagram and they'll go right back to, oh, this is the one I was watching, let me pick up on it. So, so so nowadays, do you think I mean I I'm thinking, do you think that's more effective than actually like the long form, or you think they're both just as effective when it comes to I guess building building brand or building audience? I mean, they're both effective. It's just w a different stroke for different folks. Because it's like, I mean, you have the full long form theme uh stream or whatever you want to broadcast or show, yeah, and it's like that just showing your catalog of what you can do. But um having uh the you know the reels or the clips per se, it's like I said, it's essentially could be the moneymaker, so you can do those long formed uh streams and stuff like that. You know what I mean? I agree with that. I agree with that because I'm not a person that's wrong. I'm not gonna sit there and watch like a two-hour live stream. I just don't have the time to just sit there and watch somebody for the street. You might watch the Druski joint, though. Yeah, I might watch the Druski joint, but I might, but I might watch the clips, though, is what I'm saying. Like I might watch three or four clips and I see, oh, this is what they're doing on their stream. May set aside sometime later now because I'm interested, I'm intrigued at what they got going on. Yeah, it's no different than like how we we talked about like the Vlad approach, how he does that all the time, like Matt Hoffa, who they put out so many clips, and it's like, alright, what's this full conversation about or whatever? True. True. Nah, yeah, I agree with it. I mean, uh, ultimately, Drewski's a good good example as far as like his clips transitioned to him doing like a full-on production. True. Rather be the audition or could have been love or him going on concert and booking artists. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Real shit. So yeah, I think definitely the clips are definitely the moneymaker. No, I agree 100%. I think that's the route for I think that's the route for people that are trying to become that's what they need to do. It's about the volume game now. Everything's about the that's what I'm saying with the music, bro. Shout out Y B and Gucci. It's the volume game now, bro. Like, you just have to be, you you have to be a top of mind. Got to. You have to be top of mind. Because everything's there's so much music to where you can get diluted just like that. Yeah. Unless you're like a person of like a Kanye or a Drake or a f or or Pluto. Like even now, I can't even say like you can say Frank Ocean too, because everybody still wants to hear his music. Yeah, they they they came out at the right time, bro. Like, in terms of they just nostalgia. Yeah, it was really a thing. That's how you built your brand, was like the nostalgia aspect, instead of instead of the volume aspect. I mean, there's a give and a take with that too. I feel like you have to get to a certain what threshold. Um What's that threshold? That's a good question. I mean there's a certain threshold I feel, like number wise, like people-wise, that are like consuming you on a daily basis, or what? Uh you said there's a threshold, so I was just trying to understand what you were trying to what you meant by that. Like you can stand alone, like you don't need a machine, essentially. Like you've built, you've built so much of like a really though? Like, like, yeah, I'm not, you don't want to be like a you want to be like a mega, you don't have to be like a mega star to not need the machine. Like you would have like a currency or like a La Russell. They're not megastars, but they have communities that they're dropping. Like they have people that they don't need to be, say he stopped posting, like he stopped posting for a while, but people were still going to like his little pop-up shows and all that type of stuff that he was doing. Well, he's he's able to be sustainable at the rate he was doing without posting. When's the last time Frank's been in a show? So what? Frank. But that's what I'm saying. He's he doesn't need to be, he's he's he can stand alone. He could he could drop some shit and people are gonna tune in. Nah, yeah, I think LaRussell and them, like they they need to make have the shows in order to still keep No, I'm saying, I'm saying to the point where I said you should ask me what the threshold is to not have to post every single day or whatever it is. I'm saying that once you built once you built that cult following of, all right, no matter when I drop, it doesn't matter. I'm not saying you have to be like a megastar, like a Kanye or whatever, because there's smaller artists that have like cult finals, they drop like everybody's gonna go listen to them or whatever it is. Like Larry June is one of those people that if he stopped drop, I think if he stopped dropping a couple records for like a year or whatever, and he came back and dropped the album, his cult following would be waiting for him to drop, and he would still do numbers, in my opinion. It all depends what's what's doing numbers. Because like, I mean, yeah, Larry June has a cold following, but I mean, will he do numbers to where we say like this shit? Oh shit, like Larry June is Larry June. I don't know. I disagree. I think I think it's a different thing. No, not on Larry. I think would people go like people who fuck with him, like fuck with him, but I don't think it would like, oh, he's doing numbers. But I but he's I don't think that's ever been his approach to do like True. I think like that's what I mean. That's what I'm saying, like in that threshold for itself that he like say he went away for a year. His fans have been away from the drop. His fans are gonna wait from the drop. You can say that with everybody about any artists. You can't say that about every artist. I mean every artist has a like a light on him. Nah, I don't think so, bro. Yeah. So designer, bro, designer was popping had a lot of. He wasn't, he didn't have like, oh, he had a light on him, bro. He had a light, he he had a light from fucking uh the Kanye shit, but it wasn't like what album or what project we can say designer had a this shit. But but that's what I'm saying. You only knew him from pandemic. He had a single theme. That's a different that's completely different with Larry Jr. That's why I said because he built the threshold. Larry Jones built the threshold, bro, to the point where it's like motherfuckers. You compare that nah nah nah. You compared him to like Frank Ocean's threshold. No, I'm saying you don't have to be Frank Ocean. You don't have to be a megastar like that to be able to be able to like not drop a project for a year or two and your fans still want music from you. Uh he might go, he might go fucking like oh Larry June. People a lot of people probably would forget, I think. Of his fan base? I don't think so. If Larry stopped making music for how long did Frank Ocean stop making music? Like four or five years? It's probably been longer than that for Oh yeah. What? If Larry June's if Larry June dropped after eight years later, bro, I think oh shit, Larry June dropped. Okay, cool. It wouldn't be like, oh shit, Larry June. I think it's core fan base probably would. I think so too, bro. I'll be watching some, bro. He got a he got a cult. The hip hop community ain't really gonna stop the world for Larry June. I'm sorry. The whole I'm not saying the whole thing. Talking about the culture. I'm talking about the culture. Bro, I'm saying. They stopped for Frank, though. But I get that. You miss, well, that's not my argument, though. That's not my argument, though. You put them, you put two of them, two in the three. What I'm saying is you don't have to be that threshold to not. If he's on the little boat, Frank's on the yacht. I'm not, that's not my argument. That's not my argument. That's not my argument. I get that though. What are you saying? All I'm saying is you ask me what the two different types of thresholds is what I'm saying. But there's different, but I'm saying the threshold depends on the artist, bro. It literally depends on the artist. You're not standing alone, is what I'm trying to tell you. You said what? Larry June is not standing alone. Well, my argument was that Larry June could not drop for a year or two or three, and his cold filing's gonna be waiting for we're talking about as long as Frank Ocean. Frank Ocean didn't drop Frank. You brought up Larry Drew for one. That's what I was trying to tell you. Like it's two different atmospheres, my nigga. Larry Drew didn't drop for eight years. Motherfuckers is not really like I didn't say for eight years. That wasn't my argument. Yeah, so you're moving the goalposts. We're talking about as long as Frank. That wasn't that wasn't no, you started saying as long as Frank. So what was the original subject at hand? About about um, we were talking about the volume game. We were talking about if if the if like what's the threshold for you not to have to drop like clips every day or drop the album every three or four months or project every three months. It depends on what body of work you dropped. That's what it depends on. Yeah, because he's doing the volume. The reason I brought up Larry Jr. Because he's doing the volume game right now. So I'm saying, like, if he were to stop the little thing. That just proved my point. He needs that. He has to. He can't stand alone. Okay. You just prove my point, my nigga. I guess. Like Drake took what, three years? But he was still, nah, he, I mean, he had other projects. It was what? Did he drop other music? Like little. Okay, after before this, what was what was this? All the dogs? Uh, I believe so. I'm gonna double check. Don't quote me on it. Don't quote me on it. Had to be. It was you're saying what out what project did he drop before this? It had to be all the dogs. Wasn't fucking her loss. It was some sexy songs for you. They dropped the 23. Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay. Then four other dogs, then her loss. So it wasn't three. He was still active. Drake was still active. He was still active. Yeah, he's still active. The boy that's the boy's doing them all different. He's different. He's different. Now he's different. Drake's different. Now he's different. We got niggas calling shots at you. But what I'm saying is, nobody really comes in. But what I'm saying is a threshold. It's a threshold. I mean, if the boy stopped making music, everybody'd be a different thing. People want him drop. Nobody ever felt that yet, bro. That's the thing. That's a thing of dope, bro. That's a thing of dope. You might be in the street. You know what I'm saying? Like, Frank Osha's a different type of high. Yeah. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Like, Larry June, it's like he he's like, he has to be that little frequency in your ear to still with, oh yeah, he's yeah, okay, he got that sound. He can rap for real. He's not like on those Titans level. But that, but that was my point. I'm saying you don't have to be a Titan to be have to be able to have that threshold of like, all right, I can step away. Way my audience is still gonna want to consider. I don't think he's there yet. He can't do that yet. You disagree? I think Larry June right now, based on what he's built, the ecosystem he's built, he could stop making music for a year or two and come back and have a. A year two is really not really stopping though, bro. It is though. I'm talking about not being active. You drop a project, right? And you don't make music for a year. They're still probably gonna still be spitting your your that's technically your latest project. Yeah, I'm but that's not old. That's shit's really not old. So what's the man talking about? Like three years, four years? Yeah, hell yeah. I think three years, he has enough right now. 45 years, niggas will be like, oh sh, yeah. You don't think his fan base will be waiting for him to come back? He has to have a classic project. Okay. Yeah, for sure. If he had a classic project to the classic to meaning like in his tier standard, I'm not saying he's like a C-list artist. He's like a high B-list artist, wouldn't you agree? Yeah, I think he's built to the point he's he's there. Like, meaning like when I say B a list artist, a high B list artist, like in his region, he's known and like he can go like Across the country across the country. People will know who he is. Yeah, exactly. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I agree with that. Um I don't know. I mean Yeah, I mean like I said, like the back should the closest house. I mean, do you herbal can stop for like four or five years? You think her book can stop for four or five years? Like, like he's like not, I'm saying, not active. I think Herbal's too too. He's solidified, he's he he's that's my point. Yeah. But I get what you're saying. But back to what we were saying when it came to the numbers, though. Um so it said Drake's Iceman debuted at number one, uh, moving four hundred equivalent to four hundred and sixty thousand um album units in its first week. In the same week, his two surprise albums made of honor and Habibti sold 109,000 and 114,000 units, respectively, making Drake the first artist to occupy the top three spots in the Billboard 200 simultaneously. Wow. So when they said when Dot said fuck the big three, it's just me, it's really that's what Drake just did, huh? It's just him. It's just him, he's in the big three. Yeah, yeah. Symbolism right there. So total that that was that's about what uh five, six? Yeah, like six something, almost seven. That's why I won. You said what? He sold about five hundred over five hundred. Yeah, it's over five hundred. That's over five hundred. He said four seventy. Oh, you said four, you said four, you said four fifty. No, four sixty was just for Iceman. Only Iceman. Yeah. Then 109,000 was for Habifty, and then 114 units. I mean, the other one was for Made of Honor. Oh, damn, yeah. So like 460 was just for Iceman. And the other two, you know what I'm saying? So I could probably Yeah, bro. And imagine, and if he didn't drop three projects, those numbers, the Iceman album numbers would have been higher because the spins would have been just on that album alone. Right, right, right, right, right. The boy did numbers. So are you saying if he didn't if he didn't do those two other projects, he probably would have had like 600,000. Yeah. Because think about it. The time the listenership split up between the listenership split up between all three albums. Yeah. As opposed to everybody just spinning Iceman. Yeah. You feel me? So What did I say last week? In terms of numbers? Yeah, we made it we made a little guess. I think you might have said like five. Man, he's a boy. Yeah, you said about five. This is before we knew the other projects were dropping. So that's fact. So I mean you probably you're right on par probably when it when it comes to that. I mean, what I mean, what can the what can the people say uh when it when it comes to that? Like out of the put it this way, out of the three albums that the the quote unquote big three dropped, order them. Order them from G and X? Iceman, G and X, and um The Fallout. Yo, yo, see that's the thing, bro. Now that I'm sitting back and evaluating this shit, you gotta go Iceman by fucking a landslide. Like a landslide? Landslide, bro. Over the fall off of the landslide? You're jumping to my shit. Like, landslide, bro. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Like, this shit keeps getting more better and better. Like, GNX, it was a good, it was a good little spurt. It was a good little spurt. That's why it falls on three, bro. That's the number three, bro. Like, you we we already seen the predictability of what was going on. Okay, he's gonna do this, he got the Super Bowl, he's gonna do fucking not. Like, it was all about Drake. So Drake said, alright, back. He and he he leaned it, leaned into it even more. And now look, see now Cole shit. I mean, shit, bro. That's some shit to where it's like, if we're going back to true hip-hop and rap, you know what I'm saying? Like, hey, you gotta give it to Cole, bro. Like, Cole really didn't did his thing, but he made it about his ecosystem. He granted, he touched upon like what was going on in modern day, like in the in his current situation with all like him, Drake, and Kendrick, but he made it about really his career and his upbringing. Like, if it if this were my last, you know what I mean? I'm happy with it. Like, you know what I'm saying? He because he even said on the pod on somebody's pod that uh he still he's still gonna be making music and dropping music, but it was more so like he had to make us feel like, yo, if I were to be done today, like this is it. Like, you know what I mean? We all appreciate it because like he hit he checked off all the boxes to where it's like now I'm putting this in the universe. Dot bro, like you got some things to do, bro. You said dot has some things to do. He got a drop? On some shit, nah, bro. Dot, bro, don't see now if you drop on some shit like one, you rush to drop in the summer, okay, you're moving off Drake's drum. You're a bitch. I'm not saying you're a bitch. I know what you mean. Like in theory. It's in theory, it's like, yo, why are you moving off his cadence, bro? Two, if you now all of a sudden you drop a multi-album, you know what I'm saying, more than one album, you know what I'm saying, all in one setting, okay. Now Drake fuck fucking put out the blueprint for you. I mean, Drake wasn't the first. Oh, you're talking about like two different albums? I mean, Cole technically dropped two albums too. In like that one little, but I'm saying dropped a double disc. Yeah, but Drake dropped separate albums all at once. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, Dot, I want to see something like we're going for body for body of work versus body of work type shit. Like, okay, Drake. You had Iceman. This is Iceman. Your shit was fire, but now this is my shit. Like, this is how I like this is my art. Going back to all some shit like good kid Mad City with the mesh of damn. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's some shit like motherfuckers, but oh shit. I get what you mean, because I get what you're not to cut you off, I get what you mean though. Because like you said, like Cole, he we we got we were in Cole's universe, like oh, Megastar. You felt that Forest Hill Drive nuance. All this type of shit. I'm taking everything that was going on, my mind frame. Like you said, brought brought us into his world. Drake did the same thing with Iceman. You gotta think about it. Like with Drake, he had a lot of references from his old projects, bro, in his uh new uh album. There was to where it's like, now, bro, like you don't have to like reference shit from your old shit, but like you got you gotta drop some shit. You gotta go back to touching grass, bro. I be telling you, bro. These people these artists are going back to touch grass. Like, this is no joke. Somewhere, that's somewhere in the middle of nowhere. He's seeing it, he's shaking his head and he gotta get right. He's over there with he's he's somewhere on the mountain with the monks getting right. He should. I mean, bro, he got he got super saiyan punched. He's he's sparring, he's sparring with the air right now. He's trying to get it. We forgot about the Super Bowl. When's the last time you heard not like us? I mean, the streets haven't played not like us. What do you mean, bro? I told you it was a moment, bro. The moment I haven't I haven't over the last week, I haven't. I mean, obviously last week the player's played Drake, but I haven't heard not like us a little bit before that, anyway. That's what I'm trying to tell you, bro. After the Super Bowl, he had his little moment, he had his little Grammy. When Dot is your move, you gotta make the next two. Next two. Why gotta be the next two? Drake made a move so beautifully to where Dot you have to make the next two. But we can't we can just can't discredit Dot's the dot's move before that was. What was it, bro? It was a beef. I mean, he had great songs, bro. He did the Super Bowl. The whole two years that Jones was running. What was the run damn near? It was pretty much two years. It was Drake and Dot, bro. Like him saying his victorious was probably a good like year. Yeah, yeah, the run. I mean, but like Drake had to come back. Like, I'm no, I'm saying like the jousting, you the jousting match, bro, it was both of them. But his victory, his victory run, okay, you can give us like a good year. Yeah, the victory wasn't to you, but I'm saying, like, I'm saying the amount of music they're putting out, he put it out, he was doing that for two years straight, is what I'm trying to say. He had the joust, he had the jousting with Drake. Okay, and then he dropped that he dropped the album. That's what I'm trying to say. Okay, cool. That's fine. Drake dropped the album too. All my dogs. Okay, but I'm not I'm not negating that. I'm not sure. You see what I'm saying? Like I don't think he has to put out two, two, it doesn't have to be like a two move. I think it just but each become something different, bro. Two moves next, bro. Whatever you do. Two moves, bro. Two moves. Gotta hit the frequency in a different level. It has to, bro, it has to be two moves. It has to be on some shit to where it's like, this is it, this is industry breaking. What Drake did broke the industry. It did. Did it not? It did. No, it didn't. Titan. It took some shit up. If we talk about it took some we're talking about Titan. It was like life or death, right? We're talking about Titan, bro. It was like this is the problem. You always move the goalpost. I don't move the goalpost. I'm not disagreeing with that. Put him up there. Okay. If that's your miss, put him up there. What you mean? Like, put him up there. Like, put it, make him do something that's gonna make us be like, wow. No, I'm not disagreeing with that. I'm not right then. You're taking two moments. I think this has to be a great body of work. No, I never said, I never no no no. I never said he had to. I said, yo, don't follow what Drake's doing. You have to do some shit to where it's gonna be like, damn, bro, like Drake, ah, bro, your shit's fire, but like Dodge did it again. What what I mean, music-wise, and the musicality aspect, like what what you I know you said, like see what good kid Mad City. I know you said like that vibes you want, like that's a good that's a good kid in Mad City, damn vibes. Okay. That was best dot. Am I wrong? Do you think you can tap back into that? If everybody else could you, come on, buddy. It's your turn, bro. I'm telling you, Cole, Cole threw the ball up, Drake knocked it out the park. So now you gotta do some shit that's like, damn, you changed the game, nigga. And if it doesn't go number one, then what? I mean I mean, you got the label behind you, buddy. So do I mean y'all both got the same type of chips around you to make it happen. Yeah. So it's like, I mean, unless you're on a physical front and you're like purely, okay, you're gonna make such a beautiful album that your tour is gonna be mag impeccable. Yeah. Like you really have fans where it's like it's shown to like, okay, he's really controlling the narrative again. What do you think? I know we said this is groundbreaking. Um, and it really did break the industry, because I feel like the labels are kind of scared now in terms of like the leverage shift. Because like if the like like they say, if the like every pod has been saying, like, if the golden goose of the industry breaks free is just doing everything on his own, and it's pretty much opening the floodgates, what does that mean for like the leverage for the label? Like when it comes to when it comes to that, because who's pod who's all the to this? They were saying like they use an analogy of like the the music labels, the music labels um were like coming up, we're like the club that everybody wants to get into. But like when you see, but when you see like the biggest like superstar walk off the club and tell everybody like, oh, that's just kind of whack. We could we can go to a better place or whatever. I get it, I get it. You know what I'm saying? Does that does that have that effect on it? It does and it doesn't. Now it's gonna be to where it's like at first, the if we're going to your analogy, that is the labels were the people who were the promoters, the host, and all that shit, to where it's like now they made enough of the money to where like they're just gonna own the building and let these Drake's of the worlds, the Kendrick's of the worlds be the dude, the new labels. So probably OVO the label, and they're the ones that's grabbing all these people. And the labels are just running the DSPs and these websites and these, you know, IPs, bro. Taking IPs. That's what it would you see in real time, bro? Yeah, they're they're buying, they're buying all these distro kits and all the of the worlds and all these different other platforms to where it's like, okay, they're like, all right, we're not gonna if you're gonna play hardball like this, we don't have to work with you directly. We'll take it indirectly. So when you when you drop on a platform on stream or whatever, we're still gonna take a cut because we're we're in cahoots with whatever X platform or we own it. They're always gonna have a hand in the pot, huh? 100%. They bro, they see the shift the shift before the shift happens. Yeah. That's the problem. Like, Drake won, but he was fighting an uphill battle. That's just real. Yeah, because I was listening to the project again, just even they were saying like how the label's gonna have to pay him for wasting his time. Pretty much that. That's the whole point of a settlement, bro. They both remember I was saying it, like, in my head, it's like if from what I'm taking it from, like they went to court. Okay, I'm gonna just drain him for my money. Regardless, they're gonna have to pay me because I'm out of my deal. Yeah. Like, you know what I mean? However, we don't know exactly what the like the what the agreement was or how they were going about it, but like at the end of the day, Drake has the money to fight that shit. Yeah. As we can see. Yeah. And he was still able to, bro. He's gonna if he doesn't make the money back, he's damn near probably gonna break even. But I still showing them like, okay, I made my money back, and I'm st if he's still a billionaire, or if he is a billionaire, I still have my money to do it all over again. What do you what do you think his catalog's worth? That shit's probably like a fucking couple B's. Like five B's, ten Bs. That shit might be like Yeah, between like Between seven and fourteen billion. Yeah, it's worth a lot, bro. Yeah. Yeah. I don't even know what to say because this is this is different. I mean so Mike Jackson Mike Jackson uh. What do you think of the difference between like artists like him and Dodd and all of them not selling the catalog versus the artists that are selling the catalog? Do you think those artists are selling the catalogs to get off the deals that they're in or to get that recoup? Like what do you because you never you don't know Those deals back then were just like fucked for a lot of them. Yeah. To where it's like now everything's a little bit more accessible to where you can see other people not say see other people's deals, but like see what's going on across the board digitally to where it's like people have more knowledge on how to go about their business. Yeah, yeah, because like a lot of like obviously we saw don't we see like older acts, they're selling the cat 300 mil, whatever mil, whatever it may be, instead of just holding on to that because they're just not acting no more. And it's like, all right, fuck it, I'm just gonna sell the catalog. I mean, if you're that artist, would you sell the catalog at all? Or like a piece of it? It just it just depends how your shit situation is. I mean, for me, it's like uh I would license my shit out. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I I would rather license it as opposed to just here, it's just yours forever for tea, whatever. But are you? I think selling your catalog could I mean is it selling your catalog fully or like that's just a generalized thing. Nah, some of them are selling their full catalog, but like, but is it selling it for a license deal or is it like it's like not theirs anymore? Oh well like this is how much your catalog's worth, and they're taking that bread. Yeah, like I don't know. And then some of them are doing a pie, I see some people sell part of their catalog, and I think my pop processor, the only way you the only reason you would sell part of your catalog is probably because maybe you're trying to hit that recoup mark, so now you're not you don't owe your labels nothing. Some of them probably said they're shitty deals, true, and probably never hit that recoup. They have money, but it's like yeah, they're still whoever they were signed to still get a piece of whatever comes in. So, like, here I'll just give this to you, and then now I'm getting everything 100% or whatever it is, but I don't know. Yeah, yeah, you're right, you're absolutely right. Um, but the next thing I want to talk about real quick is Universal uh UMG and TikTok officially announced a new multi uh year global license agreement um to secure long-term music rights and establish um artificial intelligence uh safeguards for artists. It says the renewed partnership ensures that UMG's expansive recorded music and publishing catalogs remain fully accessible to TikTok's global community. Um, the update permanently moves past the company's public 2024 dispute, which UMG briefly pulled its music from the platform over royalty and AI concerns. Um I mean that's good. I mean, I guess it's good for the artists when it comes to when it comes to that deal that the music's back on TikTok and all that type of stuff. Um, what do you think about that? Say the last part again? Because remember when they had the dispute of 2024 where all the UMG music was off of TikTok for a while, and there was a whole like back and forth from artists being mad at like how that's hurting their sales, because now like influencers can't play their music on TikTok or whatever it may be. Now they struck a deal that um umg officially they licensed the music to to um TikTok to be able to like put it on there. So now they're getting a cut of whatever stream. I know it's what you just said. That's why that's why I brought up the news. Bing bom boop. Yeah, so it's like you gotta understand, bro. Like there it's like this digital game is a is a is a wild wild thing, bro. There's so many loopholes to where you know you can funnel your money so it can go directly to you, to where it's like now these um large-scale labels, platforms, whatever you fucking want to call them, yeah, they want a piece of that to where it's like they're trying to patent that shit up. So wherever it goes digitally, they get a piece of your IP. And it's just like now it's on the artist to really see what's going on when you do sign a deal or you connect. Not it doesn't have to be a large-scale label, it could be with anybody when you get ready to upload and you put out your music. No, that's that's that's definitely true. And it says um, it says UMG artists will gain access to expanded on-platform like monetization monetization channels, direct the fan, e-commerce features for merchandise, and uh boosted tools to promote like tour ticket sales and album releases. So they're getting all these features as well with this license deal with the music and and all of that. So yeah. Um, so I mean, this is I think it's beneficial. I think it's beneficial. Yeah, this is beneficial to UMG, but it's also beneficial to TikTok because now these now these artists are gonna be like, yo, TikTok all has all these tools for us to be like a one-stop shop. I can do my e-commerce, I can sell tickets on here, I can drive traffic. I don't have to use any other platform to to go through there, but I can now use this. So is it them, is it gonna hyperlink to now like Ticketmaster now? Or is it See that? I don't know that since it's so since it's so new. It just says it says it says direct to fan e-commerce features. So I mean so you you it could if it's direct to fan, that means it's artist the fan, not artist the middleman the fan of the. Is it though? That's how I read it. That's how I read it though for now. For now, is it though? Until they get a bag from a ticket master or something like that. I mean, yeah, the artist is giving you the ticket, but is the artist connected to the ticket uh platform? Which means the artist exit is a ticket. Like, okay, so say if it's at like Xfinity Mobile, right, and you're buying it digitally, is it gonna go through the artist website or is it the art is it gonna go through like the hyperlink that's connected to like Ticketmaster and Ticketmaster is connected to I mean maybe that the that probably depends on what type of deal the artist is is in. That's gonna cut out somebody's money. It's that's what I'm saying. It's gonna cut out unless unless TikTok is eventually trying to create their own sell ticket selling part of platform. You never know. If they have all these e-commerce tools, it's no different than like how Amazon. They can just get a fee for the using the platform. You can still like pass it to the like Ticketmaster, no? I mean, yeah, you could, but like going this go this goes into what I'm what uh what I what I'm gonna say as well too. We can talk about both like simultaneously. Because it even says Spotify um just dropped a new feature called Spotify Reserves, it's a feature for premium subscribers that identify an artist's most dedicated listeners. Um they get two concert tickets exclusively, exclusively from that artist. If you're like a top listener and all that, so like if they're getting tickets, these platforms are are making these features where these artists can go direct to consumer. They don't have to go through the ticketmaster or the live nation sales or whatever it may be. Like, what does that mean for these for for the ticketing platforms? Because remember the whole dispute about like how they were saying ticketmaster and all that were just hiking up the prices with the resales and all that. Like maybe they're trying to make a move where it's like, all right, they got a monopoly on the ticket game, we're gonna do X, Y, and Z to make our own. They don't, they don't at all. They need a Spotify. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, you can't do it. Because they're already getting people to subscribe and use it, use the platform to listen to artists. Yeah. Real shit. And I mean, I mean, also this That would probably be smart because then they go through like a whole lawsuit and all that shit. Yeah, they did. So they're probably trying to just veer off of from that. Yeah, and like and like the Spotify thing's a little bit different, um, but it's incentivized the fans to one, use their platform because they're like, yo, if I'm on Spotify and I'm listening to my favorite artists, it's free, so it's gonna make them pay. So what? Spotify's free. So it's gonna make them pay. Yeah, for sure. And and also if if I'm if I'm listening, if I'm listening, listening on premium, like you said, a premium subscribers is gonna make them get an actual subscription. But also it's gonna incentivize these people to use Spotify because they know they have a shot at getting maybe tickets to their favorite artists or they're streaming them on a regular. So it's like, if you're if you're if you're art, if you're an artist, you pushing your your list your viewers to go straight to the Spotify or what? I mean, if I'm an artist, I would I would definitely do that because I mean, yeah, I would definitely do that. Regardless, it's like you can get more people to buy tickets instead of just doing the top list or let anybody buy a ticket. Yeah. You know what I mean? Through the platform. Because it's one, I mean, Spotify is winning, the artist is winning because they're gonna have people streaming, because they're probably getting reminders and notifications notifications when like that concert comes up. You know how people are, they're gonna want to listen to the music. Oh, yeah, this is coming, it's gonna be more in their like rotation. And you know how like UMG or whoever has a deal with Spotify though. Push them up with the algorithm when like stuff like that comes closer to the city. You're not wrong. Real shit. You're not wrong. I'm just thinking about what you're saying. It's like I'm thinking about all right, so what's Apple's move gonna be now? Because they're similar to concept, bro. Because they they need something like Spotify has the podcast game on, right? They have the music game on when it comes to streaming and all right. They're doing all these features for platforms. So like Apple music, like what's what's your play to make people want to spin on your platform? What you mean? Like like movies and television or Apple original content. Do they have a lot of that? Yeah, Apple TV. Like I know it's Apple TV, but is it is it like you're saying like it's original, Apple original. They have like the majority of their platform, like you have to pay to watch the stuff that's not there. Like if you have Apple TV, right? The majority of their stuff, from my knowledge and what I when I had it for a little bit, is Apple original shows. Oh shit. Like they're they've been they've been, I think streaming wise when it comes to shows, they may be the best platform. You see what I'm saying? So they probably got the hustle then. Yeah, like I mean, I'm not saying I didn't know that, but I'm saying like they're just Apple if I was you, you would like the shows that are Apple TV, bro. That's what I'm saying. They got they got a lot of great original content. It seems more of that, more of a niche, like in like sci-fi, like yeah, sci-fi quite certain shows have certain aesthetic to it, like it's competing with like Netflix. Yeah. On the on that, on that aspect, yeah, on their on their Apple TV aspect. What do you mean? You know how there's like Warner Studios? Is there Apple Studios? Yeah. Yeah, there is. Where? I'll look it up. Like purely that shoots film and stuff. I don't know, bro. I'm trying I'm being honest. You don't really hear you don't really hear about Apple Studios. Because when you think of Apple, you think of tech. Yeah. You don't think of film and stuff like that. Do you? Nah, not really. It's tech. That's what I'm saying, bro. Like, that's something. Yeah, Apple have Apple has its own in-house production company called Apple Studios founded in 2019. It's in that's that's new. It's very new. That's what I'm saying. Like they're trying to get in that realm. People don't know that. Yeah, it releases projects under so like so. Think about like this. I'll use our platform as a like MBT, how we our our page is only original stuff. Like, that's what Apple does. They have oh they have other catalog on them, but you have to like pay $299. I know this way. They started that shit when you when niggas get right got ready to start MBT. Yeah. That's new, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like it's new. It's new, bro. It's not like it's yeah, it's really new. And it says Apple has shifted from strictly licensing content from legacy studios toward in-house production, which allows the tech giant to own the IP and save outside studio fees. So yeah, they did that to keep everything in-house and they're just only pushing original stuff. That's that's what I'm trying to tell you. Like they're gonna build up to try to fight against Netflix. They already got the tech behind them, bro. Now just putting out the original content. Yeah, and I was speaking building their catalog and it's not. And I was speaking too on the music side because I think what Apple is the Apple is like obviously the the the holding or whatever you want to call the big music side. I'm saying in general, just I'm talking about Apple as a company. So you have like Apple, Apple, the technical. Apple Tech. And then you have Apple Studios now. Apple Studios now. And now now and you have Apple Music as well. So it's like I'm saying the Apple Music aspect, what are they gonna do to compete as a as a keep listeners listening on their platform with the spot? Basically how uh the fucking theaters do. Like do the original documentaries, which they're not they're probably doing right now, bro. Like, we're probably more of that. Like just everything's starting to become more of attached to music to something physical. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and we called that a while ago. It's like it's getting back. You were talking about that with the baby key aspect. That's that's when you kind of like started. We're like, yo, like everything is going back to you have to the music is one thing, but what's gonna keep what's gonna keep the people tuned in? What's gonna hold their attention? Like, you really gotta put that art. You said put that art in. Gotta touch the souls. Yeah. The people who speak when they started to see the microwave shit. When they when you when we started hearing, oh, hip hop is dead, that shit started to kick up again. Yeah. And before I close and go to the face of the future song today, the other part, what's the life? I don't know why I'm I can't remember this the guy's name. That is the he's a music guy, he's a podcast, he's he's in the based in Atlanta. He wears like the glasses and shit, a little short boy. He'd be on the JVP sometimes. Uh you're talking about Larry June? Larry June? Nah, not Larry June. I forget his name. But um, um, he's like a music producer. Um, but he was even saying like another reason why the Big Bang? Nah, not Big Bang. Um we're gonna go to break of I'll remember his name and I'll I'll I'll bring it up. But he was even saying that while that why the reason the Iceman album was so crucial was because everybody was like investors were seeing if hip hop was still worth the investment. Like Drake dropping and stuff like that. Are people still tuning into hip hop? Are people still people waiting for these big dogs to be like that's why he said that's another reason why it was so crucial when it came to the overarching like battle, not just Drake versus the label, whatever, but just like rap industry in general. Like, is it still worth putting money into? So and then just open the floodgates and it's like that yeah, he proved his point, bro. Like Drake, like I said, like I said before, Drake can could drop without the labels, and people are still gonna react to that shit with good feedback, bro. He gets to a point where a person makes generally good music, the freak people are gonna just gravitate to the frequency. But that's what I'm saying. Like, Kanye is Kanye, bro. Like, he's been in the he's been making top-notch music since how long? Since the like 2000. Yeah.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 49:41

He can say anything you want. Yeah. People are still gonna love Kanye. People gonna still buy Yeezys. Yeah. People are gonna still tune in when he when he does something crazy. Yeah, when he tunes in something crazy, when he drops something. Yeah. They just tuned in. Like, once you make once you can really hit certain octave octaves to where like people can really get into under a a true hypnosis, bro. That's real, bro. Like, who whose approach do you think is better? Like, whose approach to musical freedom did you think do you think is better? Like, if you if you were in their shoes, both of the giants, trying to break free of the contract that you have, like, whose approach between you. Kanye and Drake? Yeah. I mean, they both kind of did it in a similar way. They did it in a similar way, but different, though. Like, you know, how we talked about the last pod, like, one was like more head-on, like, way more vocal about it in the public, in the media, whatever. The other one was more smooth criminal type acts, if that makes sense. Like doing moving in a certain way you knew he was fighting, but it's like, all right, you don't know. Like, Yeah was kind of like in your face with it, going on shows, because in a more subtle way, though, is what I'm saying. Like, right. But I'm saying, like, who, like, if you were initially, would you take the the Ye approach, or I'm just like, fuck everybody, I don't care about none of these relationships, X, Y, and Z. I don't care if I get people try to cancel me in a sense from from the things that I say, but I'm gonna put everything on blast, or more so the the Drake way where he was like, Yeah, you know you're fighting the people that that that's your fighting, but I'm gonna put it in the music, but then I'm just gonna get the job done, and then you can't say nothing to me no more. I mean, it just depends on my mood, to be honest with you, because I think I could do either way. Yeah. Hate on me. I mean, you can continue to hate, I'm still gonna keep pushing forward. Or I mean, I'll just we'll play the business game and then I'll just still trump you at the end of the day. It don't matter. It's just by any means necessary. Yeah. I probably I I like the yay approach. I like the I like the I like I like how he did it. I like I think I think, like you said, they're both they both were poetic though. Yeah, hell yeah, they're both poetic. Um, but let's jump into the face of the future song of the day, presented by MBT Media. If you listen to us on Apple, Spotify, YouTube, tell a friend to tell a friend about today's episode. The faces of the future song of the day comes from Hurricane Wisdom and Chance the Rapper, titled Barbie doll. Once again, there's Hurricane Wisdom and Chance the Rapper.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_06 52:14

Okay. I got time.

SPEAKER_00 52:45

Just my spirit scant, nigga see us. You wanna have a big eye just for some teenies? You wanna do a big one that extra chest set? Kissin' the neck, picking up he's in a text. He called the phone, trying to get in the back. I'm telling her, friends, go climbing up back. We run around, he's struggling back. We paint the town, he lurking all app. She in the front seat doing karaoke. You got two best friends, one twerking the back, fourth one left, and the third took a nap. Second one sitting and the first one left. Take us on take care of my girl, and the rest was a verse, and the first was a wrap. Keep my work, keep the dirt on the wrap. Happy ending, it was perfect at that. Keep my number in case of emergency. Cause if you prefer it, then we can share on it back.

SPEAKER_06 53:29

Just my crap, we can't rub it. You gotta twin, I'm grabbing you. I'm gonna fuck the first nigga because I'm gonna fuck say I was a little bit bad. Oh my god. Is that the aces of the future? I can tell you.

SPEAKER_04 54:04

Once again, that was Hurricane Wisdom and Chance the Rapper, titled Barbie Doll. New single that just dropped. Solid record right there. Um the last thing I wanted to talk about. Um well, we had two more things to talk about. But Aiden Ross, he he got a he got a fight card um that's going on this weekend. Um actually taking place after we air. Yeah. Um it's a solid little fight card that he's doing. Uh so I'll read I'll read it over. So the main event is Johnny Manzel and Bob Minory. Um they have Ray J versus Super Hot Fire, um, the undercard, Michael Beasley versus Lance Stevenson. Um, and then this is the Island Boys, but they don't it doesn't have the opponent on there. But um the Island Boys are fighting. Huh? I don't think the Island Boys are fighting anymore. They're not fighting anymore? I mean, I watched the press conference. I didn't see them. Okay. Um what do you think about the press conference? The pressure? I think that definitely, I think Aiden's doing the right, I mean, doing it the right way. I mean, as far as like picking, I guess you could say influence celebrity box fighters or personalities and they fight, but it it's actually what it looks like, people that are taking it seriously. Yeah, they definitely know what I'm saying for the most part. So, I mean, you got some tension, you got some people who are friends, but you know, they have underlying issues to where it's like, I think it's gonna be something to tune in. Because I mean the press conference was good for sure. You taking you taking Johnny Manzella or Bob Minory? I'm gonna take Johnny. I think Bob about to get punched on. You won't see it's gonna be good. I think Bob will get punched. Fight to fight. I it's yeah, fight to fight, but I just can't. I don't know. I mean, maybe I'm just basing off his character, Bob Minerry. Like just when he's on the pod, he's like a little goofy, he's a goofy bull. Right. You know what I'm saying? But like Johnny, I seen Johnny in battle. I seen Johnny go against uh go against uh your your um your Alabama Crimson Tide and go to war with them, go to war with them boys. That's tackling. We're talking about punching. I know, but I think I'm just I'm talking about heart wise, like just having heart. I think no, I'm that's what I'm saying. I think he's a competitor, I think he's gonna compete. But I mean, we never really seen uh what's his name? Bobby Bob. I'll listen Bob is golf. That's it. He's a boss, he's a Boston guy. So we is he a Boston guy, I believe. Uh I don't know where Bob is from. Well, anyways, he's from somewhere and he mean he might have heart. Yeah. He might have heart. We're gonna see. Ray ain't fighting too. You do you think Razor was super hot? He's a drunk, so I don't know. I ain't never seen Super Hot. I think that fight's gonna be comedy. You think it is? But yeah, but yeah, I think I think the whole aspect of the night is gonna be is gonna be fun to watch. Do you like do you like uh when they they have the celebrity fights and stuff like that? It depends on who's the card. Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm I'm mad at it. I think the card does matter for sure. Um what do you think about people hating? Like, oh, these people really must need money if they're fighting for the public and all this type of stuff. People that need the money and stuff like that? Nah, like people, like people are saying, like, oh, why is Johnny Manzel fighting? He must he must really be broke or something like that. He's fighting. It's a payday. Fuck it. To fight somebody, like, bro, it's a payday. What's what's your ticket to get in the rain? Uh give me a fucking a few hundred million. Ronnie Mills just to just to fight you. You fight Bob Murray for uh for for what they said, Rocky, I got one, I got one, I got a mill for you. I got a mill for you to fight Bob Menry. Nope. You're not doing it? Like 15, my bad. You say you say you ain't got no draw. You ain't say you can sell tickets? Well, give me a better fucking dancing party and I'll sell it. Who would you want your ideal dancing party to do if you put like a celebrity? I'd have to look, there's a lot of people I'd choose. I don't know. Who would it be for you? Like a good ticket? Yeah. It's a lot of options. There is a lot of options. See the bull be him from uh I'll fight beat him from 520 podcast, and that'd be a good ticket. Yeah, that'd be a funny one. That'd be a good ticket. Hell yeah. I think I'm taking a W though. 100%. Okay, yeah. I'm taking a W. I'm taking that W. Um and then Michael Beasley and Lance Stevenson. That's gonna be a good one. I might take, I'm going with B's. I'm taking the B's money line. Yeah, I'll probably be. I'm taking the B's money line. Um, but the last thing I want to touch on before we close out today is um the enhancement games. So this past uh week, that I I saw on the socials that they're doing like these enhancement Olympics where the athletes can take any type of like H, steroid, and compete. Um I put in I put on our fantasy shop. I'm like, yo, I would tune in there on a regular, especially if they're contact sport, like say it was like boxing or something like that. Motherfuckers is on on the steroids just punching on each other or or or racing on the track and all that type of stuff. I mean, yeah, it'd be I mean everybody'd be even at that point. It'd be like regular sports. Do you think do you think that'd be a more watched product? Like like like say if like NFL players could be on the juice, um or or NBA players or whatever it may be, like all of them. Like, do you think that would make the games more entertaining? Because think about baseball back in the day on the 90s, it's steroid air, like that was the most watched era of baseball. Because motherfuckers hitting hitting homers left and right, people doing crazy shit, you know what I'm saying, breaking hella records. Do you think that makes sports more exciting? I mean, I guess uh it'd make it more enhanced far as them doing more things far as ability-wise, but I mean, I think it'd be no different than watching the regular sport, in my opinion. How so though? Just on the aspect of it's I mean, if you know the game, you like watching a certain sport, it's it's no different. It's just people. It just comes down to personality and marketing. Cause I think about it on a on like just the game we love, football. You know what I'm saying? Everybody was on the juice, and it just make it more like you're really gonna see somebody get through. But I'm saying your mental is different though on the juice problem. No, it don't. Fuck no, it's not different. You don't think your mental is different than the juice? You're crazy. You think you're not doing that? You're not a dog. You don't think you're wired different? You're not a dog. You don't think it's wired different on the juice? You're not a dog. You don't think you're not a dog. You don't think people have a little more rage, but you're not a dog. You don't think people have more rage? But if you got it in you, you got it in you. You got it in you, but I'm saying it'll hit it ten times. I mean, shit. If you need that, then you really need it, but I'm saying you need it, you're not a dog. I was never on the temple. I know you was on the juice. I was on the job. Yeah, I know you. You were fucking 240. Now you're fucking 210. You were on the juice. I was not on the juice. I was not on the juice. I was not on the juice. You're saying that's why we're gonna do it. You definitely on the juice. If I was on the juice, bro. You definitely on the juice, bro. If I was on the juice, I'd probably have been way bigger. Your damn road was 250, bro. So you said I defleated? So you're on the juice, bro. I'm trying to tell you. I got off of it. I said go natural, and this is what happened. I'd never touch the juice. It's all natural, play boy. You say you never touch the juice? Never. You on the juice right now? Right. All right. Stay the same size, maintained through my whole college career into now. That's that's cap. Facts. Put on a couple LBs. The high most I've weighed. The body mass got a little bigger. Was 220. Now I'm 2, what, 15, 16? Okay. What do you mean? You went from 210 to fucking 250. Okay. I was I was on the juice, nigga. I was on a program. I was on the program on camera. I was on a program. He was on the juice. Program is juice. Quote unquote. I was on the program. Juice. I'm about to get back on the program. Watch. I'm about to be on that program again. You don't come in up and juice since he's fucking benign, nigga. He looked see juice. This guy here. Um, but that's all I got for this episode, man. You got anything else for me? We out. So I got for episode 285 on the road to 300 of the faces of the future podcast. It's your boy Millie Ya guy rocket in here with me. Bitch.

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Ice. Oh my god. Is that the faces of the future?