Episode 277 | Jay-z Announces New Tour, LaRussell Under Fire For New Song, Jack Harlow's Sales Decrease, plus more

In this episode of the Faces of the Future Podcast the guys are back with a music filled episode. The first discuss Jay-z announcing 3 shows for the Anniversary of two of his most notable albums, the guy then react to Jack Harlow's first week numbers and what that means for his career going forward. next they give their thoughts on LaRussel getting called out on social media for his new song, recap Michael B Jordan winning best actor, plus more.

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Oh my god, is that the faces of the future?

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230 baby How we doing today? It's another Monday, you know the voice. I got rocket in here with me.

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Well, I see you at the show to nine. Well, I see you at the show to nine.

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Hey. Truck to the plane to the truck. Truck to the hotel lobby. Me, I go through underground garages, presidential suite on the positive elevator up to the phone. Shower up and then we hit the club. Touchdown, gotta see what's up. Area code in my phone. What numbers do I still have? Who do I know from the past? Hit one, she said she got a man, hit another one, it goes green. Must have changed focus on the team. Remember when you let me in between? That was 2017. All good chuckle, look around. Find one and see my type. Then my dubbin, he knows what I like. He done found me plenty in my life. Problem is I meet a girl tonight. Then I go and treat it two nights. Got a real credit card swipes. I don't even know if she a wife. But I do know one thing, though. Women they come, they go. Saturday through Sunday, Monday, Monday through Sunday, yo. Maybe I'll love you one day, maybe we'll someday grow. Till then I sit my drunk ass on that runway, on this one way.

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I got my win. You know we have we in the comma.

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I bet me and Ray J be friends. If we ain't love the same bitch, they matter hit it first. Only problem is I'm rich. Twenty-one Grammys, superstar family. We the new jack system, I'ma flood that action. I'm about to figure out life is a marathon. I'ma shit the paradigm, I'ma turn up every time. I'ma bust the coach's head open on some ditty shit. If he ever talked to my son like an idiot. One time for a nigga really getting it. Two times till we got the whole city lit advice for all my niggas. Impregnate Bridget. So if she ever baby, she gon' Y'all stay there with us.

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We got an episode for you on the day. There's a lot to discuss.

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Young niggas, color black and blue, and it's all I see. Hello, I got some damage, my little me.

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Oh my God. Is that the faces of the future?

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Welcome to episode 277 of the Faces of the Future podcast. It's your boy Millie. I got rocket in the building with me today. How you doing today? I'm doing good. Yeah. You know, I'm tired. I'm tired too. I'm on E. Miles was on the bender. I'm on I'm on E, man. I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, it was a long weekend. The state to state. Yeah, state to state. Road to road, highway to highway. Yeah. Spot to spot. But it was all for a good cause, though. It was all for a good cause. Made it back. Yeah, yeah. Shoot. Yeah. Gotta keep the main thing the main thing. Gotta keep the main thing the main thing. I mean, your weekend was a miffle too. I mean, yeah, I'm not gonna lie. For the most part. Yeah, what about you? Yeah, it was great. We went down, you know what I'm saying? We went down to the district, celebrate um the homie Justin, you know, matching, matching um to NYU. That's big props to him, you know. Yeah, yeah. Becoming a doctor is one of the hardest things you can do, a surgeon at that. So he's in Gray's Anatomy. Yeah, that's what I said. ER. Oh, he's in the ER? Nah, nah, nah, nah. I'm saying ER the show. Oh, yeah, yeah, no, right, right, right, right. I didn't know if he was gonna be like in the ER or not. Oh, I have no idea. I have no idea. Um But regardless, I mean, uh yeah, congratulations, Chauncey. Yeah, it's been it's been a long time coming. It's always good to see uh your friends reach their goals, you know? Right, type shit. It's always good to like, I mean, just any type of milestone, like seeing someone work from like the inception to get into what they set out on for them. It's always good. Then, you know, you gotta celebrate the wins. Got to gotta celebrate the wins, and that's exactly what we did to celebrate the wins. It was a great time, though. Right. It was a great time seeing everybody. And he said, for a great cause. Before we jump to today's episode, if you listen to Apple, Spotify, YouTube, tell a friend to tell a friend about today's episode. Click that big red subscribe button, click that follow button, click that support the show link in the bio. Helps the show grow. Um, it helps us bring bigger, better guests, better production. Allow us to interview the people you want us to see. Right. Um, this is a this is a good slate of Monday rundown news. Um, before we jump into like that, look, I know we before last episode we we um talked about like the Oscars and our predictions. How you feel about Michael B. Jordan winning winning uh the best actor. I mean, like I said, I'm not surprised, bro. I mean, playing two roles is definitely very hard. I mean, like I said, at the same to at the same token, like he was going up against some, you know, heavy hitters. Some heavy hitters for sure. Yeah. But I mean, I think that kind of like pushed him over the hedge of being the best actor. Yeah. And he was up there. I mean, like, in the speech was great. Um, and you saw everybody in the in like the crowd and stuff was like genuinely happy for him. Because think about it, we were talking off air about just watching um people ascend from maybe like childhood stardom to to like where they are now. He's one of those people. Yeah, he was on like hardball, he was over like the wire. We see him, we see him climb to becoming essentially the best actor on the planet right now. No, I agree, I agree. I feel like um another one that kind of another like award uh that kind of like made me mad was uh the best director. Yeah, I wanna I wanted I wanted Ryan Kugler to get that drawing. Yeah, I mean, I don't I think it's because like the other director had like Leonardo DiCaprio and another like A-lister. True, true, and also I mean, because I think Ryan he got um best screenplay, I think it was. Yeah, or best original screenplay. So they're probably like, ah, we gave him one, let's give it to this guy. But I mean, if you get best original screenplay, like it's it only makes sense to be the best director. Yeah. I mean, the award show in general. I mean, I didn't I didn't see I didn't see one battle after another. Yeah, I want to watch the movie because it won it won um it won that award. So I mean, have you seen it or no? Not yet, uh, but I've heard good good reviews about it. Yeah, I mean I I thought Cinners was gonna win way more awards, bro. They did. Then they win uh they won they won four, I think. Like the best cinema something like that, right? I think they won the best cinema. The the directory of photography, the director of photography, um, the woman, she was the first woman um to ever win their award. Um, which was really big. Yeah, the best scoring. Yeah, that too. The best score? Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, they were nominated for 16, I think. Yeah, like what, four? Yeah, four or five, I believe.

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So like that's a good that's a good, that's a good night. Yeah, hell yeah. They won awards. They all won awards.

SPEAKER_12 9:35

I think a lot of people were disappointed that it didn't, like, Kugel didn't get director, they didn't get the best picture. Yeah, yeah. Cause it was was was it like Hammett or something like that? No, one battle after another. Oh wow. They they won't. Remember how I was saying that last time? Yeah, you did say that. Like, I mean, like, realistically, bro, like, I feel like people wanted centers to like get a little bit more awards than what they got. I mean, they got four. But I'm saying, like, this year's catalog was pretty deep. Yeah, I mean, I mean I haven't seen the Frankenstein movie either, but I heard great things about that movie too. So, like And bro, they're gonna always keep Shakespeare in the into the question too. With like Hammond and stuff like that. Yeah. Were you surprised uh Timothy didn't win anything?

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Damn.

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He can win empty-handed. He said it was that was because of that interview about He was saying he was talking bad about like ballet, how it's boring, like nobody wants to watch that stuff. All that's that's like a quick summary. That's not exactly what we said word for word, but did that his ratings went down? Nah, I don't think I don't think that's the reason why he lost, bro. I'm just saying, like, this year's like candidates were just pretty, really, like, really good, bro. And like it was a part of that best actors crew. Yeah, I mean, his time will come eventually. That's what I'm saying, he's still young, bro. But he's been in he's been in like in a lot of major films. But think about Leo didn't get his until 2016. True, true. Sometimes it's not even Titanic came out in '98. You're not wrong about so sometimes you're right. Sometimes it's about like who you're going against. Not necessarily. And timing, bro. That's what I mean. Like who you're going against, the timing. And then, because you could have like the best performance ever, like you said, for example, Titanic. You didn't get nothing for that. So that's what I'm saying, bro. So it's just like even he even like Wolf of Wall Street or The Great Gatsby or just a bunch of different other movies that he had. It's just like, why'd he get it so late? Maybe it's one of those things like they're like, yo, you gotta put in the work, we're not just gonna give you off your first try, your second try, or whatever it may be. I mean, yeah, exactly. The fact that he got nominated for it, like you gotta do it again. You gotta do it. I feel like I mean, now I think about it when it comes to acting, I feel like that isn't too wrong to do. Because you could have one, you could have one great movie and it's like and fall off.

SPEAKER_11 11:47

Yeah, yeah.

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Because it took Denzel forever to get his. Yeah, you probably have to show the proof of concept and show your range. It's a showbiz, baby. Yeah, there's always gonna be another good actor. Because I mean, at the same time, like there's there's actors that, like I said, that have that longevity, bro. It's not like it's sports to where it's like they're gonna come and go. Like these actors, some of these actors are there for like 30, 40 years, bro. Yeah, like Samuel L and them, they've been acting forever. He's in his 70s. They're still acting, bro. Yeah. I mean, overall, the award show was good. I think I think there's like I said, just based on the playing field and all that, like, Senders came away with enough, a good amount. Could have more. They could have more. They could they could have more, but I'm saying just like it wasn't a type of thing where they didn't come away with nothing. They didn't come away empty-handed, I agree. That'd be kind of crazy if they did, but I'm saying, like, the my bad. What I was gonna say, do you think do you think that um like the the critics or the social media and stuff would have been crazy if they didn't come away with anything? Yeah. Because it was being talked. I mean, it's crazy. Like the as the Oscars started to come up, like the centers like reels. You can tell they went on like a little promotion run.

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Yeah.

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But overall it's solid. I just want to recap that, see if you watched it at all. Um, but all right, let's get into our Monday rundown news. Um, the biggest, some of the biggest news that that's happened over the past week is uh Jay-Z is announcing uh a string of shows. Um He's doing obviously the Roots Picnic that's coming to Philadelphia. Um that's in that's in May. And then he just recently uh announced a pair of hometown headlighting dates in July at Yankee Stadium, um which I think is gonna be crazy. And I saw some of the tickets are going for like 1300. Like he's going on his like now, he's like um 20, you said 20th run. So no, he's going on it's 25 years of the blueprint and um 30 years of reasonable doubt. So he's doing back-to-back shows at Yankee Stadium, which is going to be sold out like crazy. Oh yeah. And then he's doing the roots picnic prior um a few weeks before. So do you think we're gonna get new music from him? What are you expecting from the shows? Um let's start there. Uh I definitely think it's gonna be a packed out event for sure. Um you gotta think about it like Jay-Z has a cool following. So, I mean, when it comes to putting seats into the stadium, that's not gonna be a problem for him. I think he's I mean, hopefully, I mean, I wouldn't mind to hear a Jay-Z project. I mean, he doesn't need to drop one, but I mean, like him doing all this for what? Yeah, maybe he's a build up to like something bigger. Is is this um like one of those events that you might want to go to because you don't know if he's gonna perform again? Like at this at this clip. Like, because think about it, 25 years, 30 years, that's a long time being in the game, performing, doing headlining shows. I mean, yeah, I mean, definitely. Jay-Z hasn't excuse me. Jay-Z hasn't performed in how long? For real, for real. I don't remember the last time he like performed. Like, outside of like, like, you know, just popping up on somebody and doing like a Yeah, you're talking about like headlining the show. So, I mean, yeah, I feel like you should definitely go get a ticket and go see the show. Because I mean, you don't know who he's gonna bring out. Which show do you think is gonna be better? You think the Philly show is gonna be better? Or do you think the New York? I mean New York, for sure. I mean, it's New York, nigga. Yeah, that's where he's from. Yeah. Yeah. I'm doing it at the Yankee Stadium. I mean, the next question I want to ask is like, or just thoughts on like ticket prices, because a lot of people saying this stuff's not gonna be affordable. Like, we were even looking at the root, we were looking at the the cart the uh the cost of like Roots picnic tickets and them joints went skyrocketed too. Like normally the GA. I mean, realistic, I mean, but that's just because you gotta know who that person is. Nah, for sure, for sure. Like, but do you think that's gonna be like a thing throughout the summer? Because remember how we were talking about, oh, it's festival season now. We're seeing a lot of people announcing their tours. Um, obviously, like the festivals are about to be happening. I think Wayne just announced the tour as well. Wayne's coming, yeah. He's gonna be able to do it. Yeah, so it's like, do you think these events should be affordable? Do you think it's a luxury event? I mean, a luxury, a luxury item. I think, I think for the something like this, this is more of a luxury event. Yeah. I mean it's like it's like going to Drake or going to any, like, I mean, it's Jay-Z, bro. Yeah. I think, I think rightfully so, especially like in New York, like the roots, since it's a festival, I mean, I don't know if like the tickets should just be like it does, though, bro. It's because of the amount of people that's gonna be coming. Like, I know who the act is. Yeah. So when the act is a person like that, of that stature, it's like, okay, we gotta kinda adjust the price. Because it's like, at the end of the day, he's gonna want a certain number. Yeah. So how's he gonna pay them? Yeah. I just I don't know. I just think about like the everyday consumer that probably won't get the experience. They probably don't care about that, huh? It's like you're gonna spend your last paycheck or you ain't just gonna get the experience. Yeah, it's it's supply and demand. Yeah. But I mean, who who um in concert or would you be more excited to see Wayne or Jay-Z? I mean, I think both would be really good. I mean, I a lot of people say Wayne's kind of trash performing. I've never seen him perform. Um, you're talking about like now the current state? Yeah. I mean current state, I'm saying, not like back then. Because I did see some reports about that too, about like him not even being able to, like, that's why he didn't get to the New Orleans like Super Bowl, all that type of stuff. I think we talked about it on air a while back, too. That that could be also media too. I would like to see it for myself. Yeah. I mean I don't know, bro. Like, I really don't know. That's a good question. I don't know if rather I want to go see Wayne or like Jay-Z, because it's like two different type of vibes. Who you think could bring out like the better supporting cast? Like, like, like on a show. See, now you're getting into the realm of like Wayne is like pushing now that new, that old but new generation. Yeah. You get what I'm saying? But Hove got that classic, you know, 90s generation that he can bring on. Like, you'd rather be like a Jadakiss or like a Beanie Seagull or you know, a f a Cameron, whoever, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm trying, I think you think Jay-Z would have a better supporting cash? Well, like, it just depends on the crowd, bro. Like, that's what I'm saying. I think, I think just based on the size of his his label. It's like like you, like the size of his life. Oh, you're talking about I mean. I'm talking about on a show. Like, you're going to the show. Like his his his potential guest to make the show, like, I mean, like you get like, you get like seven guests to come on the show, right? Who do you who do you think was bringing out the better supporting cast to like have a show? I I mean you can have an argument with Wayne too, though, bro. True. You could. But like when it comes to Jay-Z, you got Rihanna, you could bring Beyonce out, you could bring, you could bring So So everybody that you that you're saying for Jay-Z, you don't think Wayne probably doesn't have a song with or like that's what I'm saying. Who? That's what I asked. We can look, I'm we can literally look it up right now. I wasn't asking. You could say Drake, you could say like Kanye, you could say Eminem. Yeah, yeah, we could come out with Rock, Rock Nation before it comes out with Wayne. Huh? Yeah, coming out with Rock Nation before. But I'm saying you're talking about people who could bring out, I mean, they both can bring them out, but I'm saying, like, there's so many, you could say Nikki, you could say, I mean, you can look it up. That's what I'm saying. Like, there's so many, there's so many people you could you he could bring out that he did songs with. True. I I think I think Jay-Z might have to have might have had him on that one. How? Just in just in terms of just like the like I like I just said, the names that have won the names I just dropped. Can you look up the names? I am, I'm going to. I'm going to. Nah, because I'm saying, like, I I I think I disagree. Okay. Like, we're just talking about just you're just saying just the label? Or we're talking about people he's done music with. Music. Like, you have seven, you can bring out seven people, like seven people that's gonna that's gonna come out to be a supporting act during the show, like the pop-ups. You know, the guest feet the guest people that come up to make it to make the show the show. You feel me? Yeah, I mean, like I said, uh Wayne, you know how many songs Wayne has put out through his through his tenure? He's put out a lot. I'm looking it up though, I'm searching real quick. Because I mean, I'm like, if you really think about it, like Wayne Wayne is literally up there just like Jay-Z when it comes to like putting out high quality music and bringing out a lot of people when it comes to like features and stuff like that. You don't think so? You say that again? Wayne has a lot of features with a lot of big name artists. I'm about to see. He has I mean, of course he does, it's Wayne, but I'm about to see what he what we about to see. There's nothing about Ca. I'm putting in, I'm putting in, I'm gonna say who has the better, who has the better. So just because they you're we're basing it off of this. No, they're gonna what what I put in is the most notable artist that each person is collaborated with, so we can see the string of songs. And we can see who they can bring out a supporting cast, that's all I'm saying. But I mean, when it when it when it comes to that in the general, I mean, I don't know. I think the Jay-Z, we'll come back to that, but I think the Jay-Z, the Jay-Z show will be electric in in New York regardless. Like, I think that's something I would want to try to go to. Nah, yeah. I mean, I could just work in Philly. The roots, I mean, yeah, the roots, but don't you like you said, but New York's gonna be a whole different animal. Yeah, no, no. That's gonna be I mean, the the Philly show is gonna be ridiculous, because he's gonna bring out obviously like Any C or a whole bunch of other people, probably as well, too. I think he's probably gonna save like his heavy, heavy hitters for New York. I mean, now yeah, that's that's that's a homecoming right there for real for real, if you really, if you really ask me. Like everybody when it comes to like rappers, fans, you know, executives, they're gonna probably go to that show. Without a doubt. Alright, so let's pull this so let's pull I pulled it up. Some of the their most notable names that they have. Um, so Wayne, obviously Drake, Ye, M, Chris Brown, T Pain, um, Destiny's Child, Nicki Minaj, Young Thug, Rick Ross, Kelly Rowland. Okay. You got Jay-Z, you got Beyonce, Kanye West, uh, Biggie Smalls, Alicia Keys, Rihanna. Yeah, Lincoln Park, Nas, Drake, Pharrell, Mariah, Carey, Future, Cole. I mean I'm giving it to Jay still. Hey, TJ's on. TJ's on. But both shows will be electric. Um, but continuing down the Monday rundown news. Um, Jack Harlow, man, the reports um are saying that his his album Monica only did uh 19K units sold. Would you say that's a drop-off? That's a that's a that's a drop. I mean, in terms of like the status that he left Alpha on his last project was uh I forget the name wasn't a really memorable one. Like, I mean it was good. Like, I don't I wouldn't say it's a drop-off. I mean, is it a a slight decline in his stock? I think it is. I think I think just especially off the response that he got. Nah, yeah, right. Like I said, but I don't think it's a drop-off. I think he just tried to go a different way and he wanted to make music that he liked. And that's what happened. They probably just didn't really push it like that either. You gotta think about it. They didn't really push his product like that. What you mean? Like in terms of his release? Yeah, like marketing it. I mean, compared to his other ones? Maybe because they heard the genre, like, we're not pushing this. Exactly. I mean, for somebody who was like, as much as people say they may not listen to him, but he was like one of the bigger names in that in the newer gen, like this newer gen coming up. No, I'm saying, like, he definitely was a newer name, but I'm saying, like, I I feel as though like this wasn't a priority project to the label. But my thing is, why wouldn't he be a priority project to the label? Like he's doing this is what they probably didn't like it. No, I'm saying though, in general, like, if you're a label, don't you think you'd be like, yo, this is not on brand, it's not what you want. Like, they might not count it as an album. So they might not count as an album. I'm saying, but in general, like even if you're putting this out, like if you haven't dropped in three years, I feel as though, as RDA, you can try something new, but I feel like that should be like mixed in, blended in, not know a whole project of just like something that's totally different. No, I get what you're saying, but I mean, sometimes I mean, that's where artists and labels collide, no? You're right. So they're like, okay, drop it, but I mean, we're not gonna do or put X, Y, and Z behind it to make it go. Um, what do you think about like the backlash he was getting on um? You know what I'm saying, though? No, I get what you're saying. I get I get what you're saying. Um, but like what would you think about the backlash that he was getting on socials? About like just like the covers you see like all the memes people was making. I mean, yeah, I mean it was funny as well. That joint was comedy. Yeah, it's definitely funny as hell. I mean, yeah, I mean, he definitely was trying to go like an RB route for sure. You know what I mean? Yeah. Um, but I think that also played an effect into like how people received this project, bro. Like, you're seeing on social media that everybody's like, oh, this is trash, like you your cosplaying, you're doing this and that, and then like I don't think the interview helped either. Just based off how it was received, whether like people agree with it or not. Yeah, and then it's just crazy. It was talking about hip hop and it was all predominantly white people. Yeah. I mean, how do you feel about that? It was just I thought somebody was gonna was gonna say something about that. People did comment, people did comment that. There's some people that are saying that, like, oh, why are you taking hip-hop takes? Look at the room. Like, that's what I'm saying. Like, you're talking about a black situation with uh nothing but Caucasian men. That's what we come to nowadays, eh? Um, but it says Jack Man, his last album sold 33,000 and he only stole 19k this time, so that was a drop-off for sure. It was a drop-off, but it wasn't like a fall off. And then, I mean, his his album before that earned um 113,000. So he's been on a decline. Dang. I mean, you gotta think about it, new kid on the block, you know what I mean. I mean, that's I mean, you gotta think about it. Everybody doesn't have consistent projects uh when they drop. Like for him, I mean, you gotta think about it, he was a new kid on the block, he was hot, you know what I mean? They made the hunt, the hunt is good. That's probably that's his peak, obviously. Then going to 33, it's just like, okay, he probably had a good maybe two, three songs in the project. You know what I mean? This one was more, this really, there's really wasn't one that can grab and take. And then also, remember, he was shooting movies too. Do you think he's trying to just go that more that route into like entertainment as opposed to like focusing on the music? I mean, there's there there really isn't no telling. I mean, I I you would like to say he's still involved in the music, but he might just be comfortable that he's he no, he's getting like advertisement commercials. I think I think um You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I think what I was gonna say after that is I think that his I think he's probably pivoting towards like the entertainment space. I think like his brand's more suited for that, like long term. That's just the max, like the comedy, like the skit stuff. Like, because I mean that's the last like what because he was on white man can't jump. Um he's he's been seeing like a lot of like different ads, commercial, stuff like that. I mean, but I don't know. I just like I just feel like like you say, he hit his peak. He hasn't been making too much of quality music. And I'm not saying it's not quality, it's just quality. It's just I mean, I I'm not gonna say it's not not quality. I'm just saying, like, he's probably just comfortable, bro. Yeah, man. I mean, what do you think? Why do you think that happens to artists like when they do you think they just get complacent? Do you think it's it could be something that we don't know about when it comes to when it comes to uh just like their situation with their label as a whole, like you said, like they probably didn't put um as much effort into this project because maybe they didn't like it. Yeah. I mean, like I said off air, he how he got on might have been the commercial route. You get what I'm saying? Like you mean like he has somebody to write a great song for him to yo, yo, you look like the part, you can rap, you can, you you know what I'm saying? You can rap a little bit, do it like this, and this is how we'll get you popping. And now he wants to do what he wants, and it's still music and still good, but it's just not really what the mass majority wants to hear. Yeah, so I mean, like, and then we'll go into the song on the day after this, but like when it comes to an artist and you're like at the crossroads, and this is because this is something I was thinking about. Like, I feel like it could be like really hard when you know, oh, this is my peak, but I want to try something new creatively, but am I trying to still make bread or I don't want to make one on what I want to make? Um, like what do you think goes to artists' mind when they when they're when they're seeing that? Like, like you said, he tried to want to do experimental projects, but but there the label could have been telling him, like, this is what your stats are saying, this is what the data's telling you you have to make this type of music so we can make X amount of bread or whatever it is. Yeah, um That's just that's a personal decision. I mean, it's not a personal decision, it's a team decision, realistically. I mean, whoever's like really close to him and like managing A and R or whatever has to make him realize like we still can do what you want to do, but it gotta make sense. So it gotta make sense. Right? Explain, explain like that. Like I'm saying, like, is I mean you can make the music that you want to make, but like, you if it if if if the people are not gravitating to towards that shit, it just like either you gotta switch it up a little bit, or you just gotta continue to say fuck it and and uh eventually force them to like it. Not force, you know what I'm saying, but like continue to push your agenda of what you're trying to get them to see. Yeah. I think it all depends on like just the basics, it just depends on your situation at the moment of time. Like if if if if you if you're in that state where you like you you gotta give your brands, like the fuck we gotta do what the label talking about. But but but but but you it's not even like you gotta do what the label's talking about. It's just more so just you really gotta find fine-tune whatever you gotta fine-tune to make the people really understand what perspective you're trying to push in your sound. Yeah. Cause you got people like you got people like, yeah, you know what I mean. He you know what I'm saying? He'll he'll go away from his his traditional sound of how he came up, and people like, oh yeah, he fell off, but he really hasn't fallen off. He'll come out with like good record singles, projects like Vultures, uh Donda, you know what I mean? But like isn't there isn't there like a place like where you could go too far off the rails, too far off your like your grid point, you know what I'm saying? Like, yay. But yeah, but everybody caught up. But like everybody caught up though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get that. But like, yeah, he's almost like an anomaly when it comes to like that aspect. Like not every artist? Not every artist can do that. Justin Bieber? In terms of what? Like, how far he didn't he didn't he didn't fall sway too far off of his off of his middle, I feel like his main his main line, bro. I mean, he was more poppy. But and then he went RB, he went pure RB, pure everything. Oh, he's on a whole different sound. I feel that, I mean, I feel like the scene's a little different than like what Ye was doing. Like he changed his entire sound. It's it's two different things. I mean, I mean, they could some would say that Justin Bieber project was changing his entire like. Nah, there was it was a mix. It was a mix, though. It was it was a blend of everything. That's what I mean by it. RB right there. Neil Soul. There's R B, there's pop. RB, Neo Soul. Pop. Neo Soul? Which record was Neil Soul on there? Which record was I'm I'm very interested to hear what what record was Neo Soul on on uh the Justin Bieber project. Daisy's Neo Soul. That's not that's not that's not Neo Soul. What's Neo Soul there? So what is Neil Soul? Yeah. I mean, technically what a Neo Soul song song would probably be is like Erica Badu, that type of vibe. Like Yeah, he had Neo Soul there. Where? Alright, see now. I'm asking. What's Neo Soul? I could be completely wrong. Okay, I'm gonna pull it up. Well, like you tell me, continue to talk about it. I am talking while I'm looking it up. I am. I'm just curious because I don't think that project was Neil Soul. I said it had a little bit of it. I'm not saying the whole project was Neo Soul. I said it was. I said it was more than a little bit. I said like more RB than pop. Yeah, but I think it's more pop than Neil Soul, is what I'm saying. You're trying to just find a place for pop, but I'm saying it was if anything, it was dominantly RB. I said it had a little hint of Neil Soul into it. You said more pop. I was like, mm, not really. Like what? What was more pop? What song? You said what? What song? I'll go to the I'ma go to the, I'm gonna go to the. Nah, you see what I'm saying? What you mean? I'm gonna say it off the top of the dome. You couldn't either. I I I said either. That's all I'm trying to tell you. I said the I said a song. You said that wasn't Neo Song. I said, hey, you had a little bit of it. Daisies? Look, uh, I'm gonna play Daisy. No, no, no. Find the song that you want to vlog. You said you said the Daisy, you could be wrong, but I'm saying, he's trying to get up to find the fact that he's trying to find the fact that you trying to find you say you're trying to find it. I'm looking at the day, I'm looking at you don't got the I could be wrong. So let's find let's find out. So let's find this song and then we can talk about it. I'm seeing Daisy D scooter. This thing is the hypocal. I'm about to be the hypocrite. So what's the song called? What was the song called? I'm the I'm about to play Daisy. So what's the song called? Yo, you see? Yo, you see? I'm glad we're on there. You see what? You see what? Well, just tell me the song before you before you. I thought I played Daisy's idea. Well, why do I have to wait after? Just find the song.

SPEAKER_10 33:50

Because I'm the one controlling the job, tree. I just want every steel song.

SPEAKER_05 33:56

Shall see petals like do you love me and I just spinning and it don't know when to stop. Hold on, hold on. Give me a rare baby, but I still get the mess. But I can connect them. If it ain't rape, baby, you know I respect.

unknown 34:32

If you need time, just take your time.

SPEAKER_12 34:35

I don't think that's Neil Soul though. Yeah, I can say I could have been wrong. I'm just saying you're trying to prove a point. I said I could have wrong. No, I'll just listen to it.

unknown 34:43

Huh?

SPEAKER_12 34:44

I mean, the main deal joined UConn is a pop record. That was RB. It's pop and RB. It's R it's R B. It's not pop. It's R B. Okay. Play it. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 35:09

RB call. I pick up on the call. In the final with the roof card. I put a legal RB song. I can update a move on. Like you haul, and I know you like to go slow. But we go faster. Tell me the password. Sassy.

SPEAKER_12 35:37

I think it's a pop record. It's RB. Alright. Even when he did the live performance, it's more RB. It's a that's a pop record. He slowed it down on the Grammy's joint. That's a slowed down version of the record, bro. And it was more of an RB. The slow down version is, yeah. RB nuance. It's an RB song, bro. We'll let the people decide. RB songs. Um, but the face of the future song of the day, presented by MBT Media. Um, if you're listening to us on Apple, Spotify, YouTube, tell a friend to tell a friend about today's episode. Comes from Ella Main, um, called Honor. Once again, this is Ella Main Honor.

SPEAKER_06 36:34

I've always been the one that doubt myself. Convinced I don't deserve a summon. So now that I'm with you, it's true. I feel I'm not enough to show you care. Love is me, I have it up, pushing over. I can never really fight. Wanna be the many help me discover? But you need to keep me in take. But you join my light. Always for some fight. I wish you just believed in me. So we can survive. Keep you in my life. In me. Honor me. Is there any replay? Only got this time. Don't you ever doubt that? With all in your respect. So we don't forget. Honor me. I need a way.

SPEAKER_00 38:15

Oh my God. Is that the faces of the future?

SPEAKER_12 38:19

Once again, that was Element Honor. Um, off his album that's coming out uh at the end of this week called Sounds for Someone. Um, I don't know if you saw his interview on the RB um podcast with like Tank. Um that boy got really that he might have the best one of the best vocals in the in the in the uh in uh like that new collective of like RB like male singers that were we were talking about before Thomas's and all that. Yeah, he definitely can sing for sure. I think you said I think you mentioned him too in the last time we were like uh when we were just debating on who's the leader of the next generation, that type of thing. Oh yeah. But because he saw he sung some like Stevie Wonder record. I'm just like, alright, that boy, that boy was tough. Um but let's jump into some more one day rundown news. Um What do you think about all the stuff that's been happening as of late in the war? I mean, it just seems like everything continues to like can like to happen. I mean, nobody's really stopping shit. Yeah, but I mean like there's no really like it doesn't seem like there's no like nobody's trying to push for like some sort of like peace treaty or just some sort of like conversation or negotiation that we're just going. Yeah, bro, and like and then just like the fact that they're actually we're getting close, closer to actually putting, like you said, feet on ground. I mean, shit, we're already bombing shit. So it's just like we're already there, bro. Like, I guess I mean, I guess no, to officially publicly say we're officially at war. Yeah. Like, we're yeah, we're getting closer to that. But I'm saying right now we're watching war happen. Oh no, yeah, we're watching war happen. I'm just saying, like, in terms of like we're actually sending physical, like the people in there, you know what I'm saying? Like the big groups of American soldiers that we were talking about last episode. Right. Yeah, we're seeing the war. We're seeing things get blown up, airports get blown up, cities get blown up. There was like even like a rumor going around. Obviously, it's people think like Annette Yahoo's not around no more. Why do you think that? That's just been like some of the news outings because like he hasn't like made like a public appearance or something like that in a minute. So you think he got taken out? That's what that's with like some talks on like some of the news outlets, like socials and things that nature, because like they've been just posting like a lot of like AI footage and stuff like that of him. Yeah, so people were like wondering like what's really up, like what's really going on. Right. I mean, do you think how'd they get there? Like they what do you think? Like he got cashed, he got killed, he got. I mean, you know, Israel's been struck a couple times. True, true. Yeah, so I don't know. I'm just saying, like, so that means they got some shit to where they they hit it right where he was. Yeah, I mean, I mean, like I said, this is all ledge and all like rumors that they were talking about, but like hypothetically, if that happened, like how big of a blown that would be to that nation? That shit would be treacherous and detrimental, if you ask me, because I mean, like, if if the person who's pushing for all this shit to happen and got knocked off, that means what type of what type of uh power they got over there, they're sending over here. Yeah, true. I mean, and then also just I mean, like, but you saw like when the supreme leader of Iran got knocked off, like, they're the next year, the boy waiting in line. Yeah. So, I mean, I wonder what the such plan of other places is. But the biggest news that happened when it comes to the war is the top uh U.S. security official steps down named uh Joe Kent. It says Joe Kent, who had been serving as director of uh national counter uh at the national counterterrorism center, posted his uh resignation letter on X um contradicting the administration's bias for launching the war and imploring Trump to end it. He said, I cannot in good conscience support the ongoing war in Iran. Uh Kent wrote, um, Iran uh posed no imminent threat to our nation, and it's clear that we started this war due to pressure from Israel and its powerful American lobby. Um Kent also pointed out that Trump had pledged to keep the U.S. out of never-ending wars, like those in Iraq and Afghanistan, and argued that Trump had been misled about the threat posed by Iran, um blaming media figures and high-ranking Israeli officials and lobbyists for pushing Trump away uh from his America first agenda. Um and then it goes on to say one more thing that Trump dismissed him quickly. Telling reporters always uh thought he was weak on security. Um, so that's major news. And then he went on Tucker Carlson and did an interview. I watched like clips from it and stuff like that. But the head of counterterrorism, bro, in the middle of a war, stepping down, like yeah, bro. That's that's not a good thing, bro, at all. Yeah, bro. I mean, you gotta realize, I mean, he's probably seeing like shit don't make too much sense right now, bro. Like, I think everybody's starting to realize Trump, we're moving a little too fast, bro. A little too fast, and there's no camaraderie with the within the people higher up, see, like I'm talking about the people that are making the decisions. He's chasing that dollar, bro. Yeah, he's chasing that dollar, but what he's doing could all gonna ultimately mess up his dollar the way they move. Like, he thinks the way he's moving is gonna be able to get to his dollar faster. And it's like, I don't know, it could look good now, but like on the back end, those bridges that you're burning, bro, could be bad money. Yeah. For the for the for the sake of the people of America. That and it's just like this many people are like stepping out, like a few, obviously, a few weeks ago, we saw like how the obviously uh the AI uh CEO from Claude went up against Trump for what they were trying to do with them. Now you see a counter-terrorism person doing the same thing. Like people were out there just saying it like direct, being very transparent. They're opposed to why they were resigning and shit. Yeah, and and and I was gonna say, like, you see people going public with like this, wasn't like a thing in the past of like someone resigns like to put out like a press release, that type of thing. But like people are going to social media and detailing their clear thoughts with no words, no hesitations, nothing like that. I mean, do you like do you like that uh that government officials are acting that way now? Yeah, no, because it's just like it makes I mean it makes the pot even bigger and smells even badder about like what our government is. Government really is right now, which is not really united. But at the same time, it's good for us to know what's going on a little bit. You know what I mean? Do you think that causes more stress on the people though? No, that's what I'm saying. Like it that's a lot of information. Like it shows like our government's not really united at all. And it's like what what's really going on? But uh I feel as though it like I feel like you shouldn't have like you shouldn't go out there and go on a press run and interview saying everything, because it's like some things need to be closed up. A lot of things need to be closed up. I think I think that's not something he should have came out and said necessarily, or even just went straight to interview and said necessarily. I feel like, and also I would think that like if you're working that high up in the government, you wouldn't be allowed to like speak on certain situations. Like you know how like when you when you work for a company, like a corporate or something like that, you have to say you get like a you resign or you or or you get fired or something like in some places have NDAs, things of that nature, but sometimes you're not allowed, but you're not allowed to talk about any of the work that you're doing, that type of stuff. Was he talking about the work that he was doing, or was he just kind of like just giving his opinion about like how Trump's moving? I think that's one and the same at that level when it's in the government. You're telling everybody, oh, there's a lot of um misalignment between everybody, like you're the head of counterterrorism. So like that's not you coming out and saying that's not gonna keep the people at ease. It's not gonna keep it may not make things better internally either. It's not gonna make anything better, like amongst the people, but I mean he's just being brutally honest, and I feel like he has the right as a you know uh as an American to tell him to tell the people what's really going on. But you don't think that does more harm than good? I mean it's preparing the people for what might happen. Or what we're dealing with, better yet. I don't know, I'm I'm a little torn between the bro when it comes to that because I feel like there's better ways to do shit like that. How? Because what if they try to talk bad on his name and try to do certain shit or like throw certain allegations? I get that, like they already tried to do like when when the when Trump came out and said that he was weak and all that type of stuff, he was doing X, Y, and H. He's just standing his own ground. He's just getting ahead of it. I mean, I guess. I guess you're right. Um was about to say, do you think, do you think um this this is only like the tip of the iceberg when it comes to like I guess government officials coming out resigning as as things start to be like hasn't a lot of like different government officials been fired or resigned or been replaced and all that other thing? Yeah, there's been there's been a lot. There's been a lot. Like yeah, I feel like he's probably just trying to get people around him that are gonna just do what he says and can be yes men. Did you did you see um the reports about like how we're kind of like on the island right now in terms of like none of our normal allies that would help us fighter just like nah we're not because we're crashing out for some reason for for a specific thing? I don't know what that specific thing might entail, but we're he's going all in about something. That's all I know. Yeah, he's going in all about something, and then like like you said, when when when everybody like when the crash out happens, say like we talked about the oil prices and things of that nature, like how do you think I guess the citizens are gonna react when things hit the fan? Like I feel like people are gonna people are already preparing for something to hit the fan just because by everything that's being shown at a rapid pace, it you know, where he seeing in like whether it be Instagram or just you know, regular platform or another bombing happening, US or Iraq or whatever, to where it's like when shit hits a fan, it's like, okay, it was only a matter of time. Yeah. And that's and that's what I that's what I meant. Like last week when I was saying not I think it was last week, or two weeks ago when I was saying I don't think a lot of things are gonna surprise people no more because like it's almost bound, like we're almost expecting the worst of the worst. I'm saying like hearing about missiles versus hearing about information that nobody knows are two different things, in my opinion. I hear what you're saying. But I mean, I'm just gonna tell with this. I mean, I just we just want to give a quick update in terms of like what's been going on. Um, Joe can't step it down, is something I think everybody should be paid attention to. Um but yeah, I mean, I think we're gonna be in war for a minute with this. This is gonna be going on for a while. This ain't gonna die. Because people were trying to say it's gonna, oh, this could end as soon as like three weeks, three months. I'm like, nah, bro. This is gonna be like 10. This is gonna be a while. Yeah. A while for sure. Um LaRussell, man. We've been talking a lot of good news about LaRussell over the past like mute month, um, in terms of like deals he made with even, um, the deal he he did with Rock Nation. We talked about that. Um, and we've talked about him in the past when it comes to uh him just building his own business with good company and like doing the backyard shows and being like the blueprint for independent artists. Um, but he's under fire right now for um a song that he dropped called Heaven Sent. I'll read um the quick summary. It says on March 14th, the Bay Area rapper shared a clip of himself performing a track in which he called Donald Trump, Jeffrey Epstein, and Adolf Hitler Heaven Sent. Um LaRussell defended the song, saying his intent his uh intention was that every human was made by God, even the evil ones. And that he captioned his post. My engineer told me probably um I probably shouldn't put this out. That's exactly why I put it out. Um, after the video went viral, critics agreed he shouldn't have dropped it. Um social media went crazy, and then he later deactivated his socials because people were just turning up on him. So I mean go ahead. I mean Yeah, clearly did it for shock value. You think so? You think that was the reason he did it? Bro, the title's called What Again? Um Heaven sent. Oh, but then he said, he said Donald Trump, all those people, they haven't sent. Yeah. That's facts. That's not what heaven sent means, though. What you mean? Heaven sent means something like that's good, that's good. That's what that's coming from heaven, right? Yeah, but that's not what the term heaven sent means. To whom? That's not the definition of it. What's the definition of it? I'll give you the straight definition of it right now. I mean, if you if we all come where we all come from. We call from hell. I get what you're saying when it comes to that, but that's not what that's not but that's not what that phrase. Just because it's whoever made the phrase that that that's not fucking law. What you mean? That's word. I mean words have meaning, bro. And the words mean that it's it says heaven says heaven since describes something extremely fortunate, opportune, or timely, often appearing as divine intervention. So it doesn't mean good. Yes, it does. Extremely fortunate. Fortunate. That's what it's working. Fortunate means okay. That's unfortunate is bad. Fortunate is good. Donald Trump doing what he did. Donald Trump's life wasn't fortunate of what he became. These these people aren't these people aren't fortunate. They're not, that's that's what heavy said. To become president, you have to be fortunate to get there. To be one of one of a world leader like Adolf Hitler. I gotta disagree with that. What? I gotta disagree. To be a world leader or a political leader of power or influence, you have to be able to do that. I'm talking about in terms of the words. You gotta break down the nuance of that context of heaven sent. So you don't think you should got you don't think these people should have been under fire under people? It's ignorance is bliss. How is it how what's ignorant about it? I mean, he he's actually pretty correct about they were heaven sent. Okay. Would you agree or disagree? How? Well, based on what I just said, no. Based on what he explained. The Donald Trump portion of what he what he has. I wouldn't call Donald Trump Heaven sent. Based on I wouldn't call him heaven sent, I wouldn't call him. I mean, in the context of this situation, he would be heaven sent. You said what? Heaven sent. Like he typically. But as a my thing as an artist, bro, you write words for a living, bro. So you can't. Shock value. You gotta I get that. I get that. But like you shouldn't be surprised by the backlash you get if you're saying something that's gonna have people talking crazy. That's that's the point I'm getting at. Like, who said he had he felt a type of way? He came on there and felt a type of way. He he was did he did a whole like vlog interview. I got I mean, I'll I'll send you the interview and stuff when you did it. But he was saying, um, he said, oh, all you guys are stupid, all you guys are like this, that type of thing. Ignorance is bliss. But he felt but he felt, but he I'm saying he felt a way. That's what I mean. But I'm saying though, like, you shouldn't, I I don't think you should feel away if you know that the way you articulate some articulated something is gonna have a good portion of people mad, bro. No, I get that. Like, if the thing the saying's like, what's what's the saying that goes, like, if everybody's telling you doing something wrong, like you must, you probably more than time doing something. But you can't say it's wrong, though. It's you can't you can't say it's wrong based on how it's received by the people. Yeah. What's wrong? How the people received it is what's wrong. Obviously, that's what I mean. But I mean, what's wrong? Like, I mean, the what do you say? Because they said could because he said those names were heaven sent. Yeah, they said it's not really wrong, bro. To the masses, it's but that but that definition you said But by but when the masses when the masses say something, that's that's considered a norm. That's what a norm is. It was like some if everybody believes something, that's the norm that this is wrong. Well, the norm is not always the right. But uh, but I'm speak I'm just speaking in him feeling a way about people reacting. I get it, but I'm just saying to to to his defense, like the norm is not always right, bro. So if that is that's the case, then why are you deacting your socials? Like you did something wrong. I don't know. That's that's the point I'm getting at. Like it's you don't you don't have to hear about it. You don't have to what does the social mean to him? Like, like I mean, that's so that's his whole that's pretty much his whole brand. I mean his brand is still his brand, people still listen to his music, people still streaming his shit. Yeah, but I mean, that looks away.

SPEAKER_10 54:03

Okay, man.

SPEAKER_12 54:04

Because you said because you and also you're preaching something like you're you're preaching saying, oh, like I'm gonna put out anywhere, like I'm an artist. Uh I say what I want to say, I stand on it. That's not true. He did it though, he still drops, it still drops. I don't think that's standing on what you're saying. He still drops. I mean, you deleted everything. He deleted the song. You said what? He deleted the song? Bro, it was only on social, he deactivated everything. Then is the song still out? The song's not dropped, bro. He dropped a clip, a clip from a song. He dropped a clip. Probably to see what people were gonna say about it before he actually put it out into the and then he deleted it by deactivating the socials. That's what I'm saying. That's not really standing on what you're saying. Oh, I thought that song was already out. No, I mean, to my knowledge, not I'll look to see, but like to my knowledge, he dropped the clip of the song. Like, I mean, if the song's already out, it's already out. But if not, I mean, I don't know why he deactivated the account. I can't jump to the gun while that man deactivated his account. I feel you. But um It wasn't on there, nah, I searched uh Heaven didn't pop up. Damn. But it could be on like his Eve, because some of his music's like on only direct to consumer, and then he releases later, so I don't know. Right. But I've never, but nobody ever saw most of the times before he drops it like publicly, like the songs, he'll drop a bunch of clips. That's the first time he dropped that clip, I believe. Right. So but it just got received bad. Like a lot of people, like I was listening to different like radio shows, I was listening to like different like artists that were saying it. Like, they get they're like they were like they get what you were trying to say, but it's like you're you're recording. Did you stop?

SPEAKER_08 55:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 55:29

But yeah, I mean, another thing we're talking about also, too, was uh like when it came to La Russell, I guess why like when people like sign or something, they try to do something out of their character, out of what they normally do. I mean, when it comes to that. I mean, I don't know. It was just a little interesting why he did it like that though. Do you think it's part of his like strategy, market strategy? I mean, that's definitely you said the shock value thing. You said some people do do things for shock value to get into like the ecosystem or what though? Like, I don't know, I don't get the angle. Like, I don't get like I I get it like he's trying to like ever like there's certain people that are heaven sent. But like I didn't hear, I need to really hear like the song. Yeah, uh I'll I'll get the audio for you real quick. Um because uh that was news new news to me when you told me that, believe it or not. Oh, you didn't see that? That joint was going all through the hip hop brands in the music, the music industry was talking about that joint everywhere. Yeah, LaRussell. I mean, like I said, I listen, like I fuck with his music, but he doesn't really pop up in my algorithm like that anymore. Yeah, but it was it wasn't like even like a um like uh more so had to do with like him popping up. It was just like all the outlets were just covering, like all the hip-hop media outlets were covering it because it's just they're like, oh, you're a rapper, you're around for this long, why would you say something like that, especially with the times? And like the conversation was like when-too sensitive these days. And then and then the main, but the that wasn't even like the main thing. It was more so just like listening to your team, like your engineers telling you to not put something out, or producers telling you not to put it, because those like essentially like part of like your AR crew or whatever it may be, or people that are helping you make music that's gonna, I guess, help your help your music elevated. They're telling you not to put something out. Should you listen to them or just do your own thing? Yeah, there's times where you definitely gotta listen to. I'm not saying don't listen to your team, but like a clip is a clip. At the end of the day, it's not like he put it out like the full song. Um, here's the here's the song, here's the actual song. I just found the clip real quick. Oh shit, I got the song.

SPEAKER_01 57:24

It's just the clip that we're all sent, even the devil was having sent, even Malcolm was having sent, even Martin was having sent, even Kanye was having sent. We all haven't sent Donald too. We all haven't sent Epstein too. We all haven't sent. So some love.

SPEAKER_12 57:56

So what? It's a fact though, like he said it we lost heaven sent. Even the devil was heaven sent. Like, I mean, nah, bro, like, yeah, the hip hop community's bugging if they're getting mad about that, bro. Like, there's there's nothing, that wasn't even for shock value. Now that I'm thinking about it, he was just saying, like, yeah, bro, like good and bad are we having sent. I feel yeah, I just wanna get you a-fact, like heaven sent it it never said good, it's a fortunate.

unknown 58:24

Okay.

SPEAKER_12 58:24

Like, you gotta go by context, bro. Like, now you have me thinking that I'm thinking like, nah, yeah, nah. You're bugging. You're bugging, Miles. What am I bugging about? Like, the kind the way you were trying to describe it, that's that's how the masters were described when I read it. Like, so when the news reports and the clips and everybody's talking. I agreed with them. In terms of what? I said, yeah, you have to know what you're you have to know what you're saying, how to articulate it a certain way, bro. He articulated it very well. He I don't think he bro, if you articulate, if if he articulated it well, it would have received the way people. He literally said the very first, even the devil was heaven said. But you're not hearing what I'm saying, bro. What I'm saying is if something was articulated well enough. That was well, if something was articulated well to the masses, bro, like on a mass school, like you could be someone that says, okay, that's articulated well on the on not the master side, but like, you know, what's what's the the flip side? Like the the um the smaller demographic people, like, oh, I get what he's saying, whatever. But if the majority of people are saying, yo, the fucking majority. You're not hearing what I'm saying when it comes to this, bro. I'm saying you can't say, in my opinion, that oh, I articulated something well if everybody, if the majority of people perceived it a certain way, which is a negative light, and all these different places are picking up saying the same things. That's what I'm saying. I'm saying if it was article, if it was articulated properly, in a way where people are like, oh, I get what he's saying, then it wouldn't have been received the certain way by the masses. But that's what I'm saying. Like who, who, who, see them, the mass, what mass, what outlet said this? Uh they were talking about it on Breakfast Club. They were talking about on Joe Budd and they were talking, um, a lot of the a lot of the um what's it called, like hip-hop reporters and stuff like that that post on X and stuff that are that are um in the in the music industry were talking about that as well, too. That's what I'm saying. I'm not saying it as something like all these random people were saying. I'm saying like major platforms that cover music were literally talking about this. That's what I'm saying. And I said, that's what I said. If he articulated in a way that people deemed, if people, if he articulated in a way that people deemed it positive, their reaction would have been positive, not a negative. Nobody, no, it's not about a positive or a negative. But he why is it what do you mean why is it positive? It is about a positive. If it wasn't about positive or negative, bro, he wouldn't have deactivated his socials. I mean, regardless of him deactivating the socials or not, like at the end of the day, the message is pretty clear, bro. Like what heaven sent actually means. I gotta disagree, bro. I just gotta disagree. I just gotta disagree. I just gotta disagree with the the fact that like you're saying that he articulated it well in terms of what he meaning off, though. You wouldn't have had to explain himself afterwards. By him leading by him leading off by saying even the devil was heaven sent. Bro, if you articulate so well, you don't need you don't need to jump from platform to platform and say, oh, this is what I meant. Content I'm meant, right? You know what I'm saying? But I'm I'm saying I'm just going to your point of saying he articulated well. If he did, it wouldn't have to be explained this way. He did, by the way. But this is my opinion. Like it's one thing. He let off by saying even the devil was heaven sent. Okay. So I mean, what does that mean? You tell me. You're saying now it's not self-explanatory. You're saying it's articulated well. Now it's not self-explanatory. In terms of what? It's not self-explanatory. He wouldn't have it explained itself. That's my whole point. If it was clear, he wouldn't have to go on, he wouldn't have had to go on platforms and try to do PR to clean up what he said and explain what he meant, bro. That's all I'm saying. Whether he's right, wrong, or indifferent, I'm saying the way he articulated himself to the map. I'm not playing dumb at all. How am I playing dumb? So it was hard. It was hard of you for the it was hard for you to understand when he said even the devil was haven't sent. Bro, you're missing my whole point. I never said that. I never said that was it, bro. My whole argument, my whole argument. I'm saying, was it? Yeah, when he said it originally, it's like, yeah, why are you saying that? When I originally heard that, yes, 100%, bro. 100%. Yeah, he's playing dumb. I get it. I'm not playing dumb. I'm not playing dumb. Just because we disagree, why don't I play dumb? Just because I don't want to agree with the statement that you made, how am I playing dumb? So when he said even the devil was heaven sent, you didn't know what he meant. No, bro, because heaven sent is deemed as something that is good, bro. Says woohoo. The doctor definitely explained it. Fortunate mean does fortunate not mean good? Fortunate means Does fortunate not mean good?

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It's not a synonym for good. Okay, yeah. That's all I'm saying. The devil was an angel at one point, was it not? So Epstein Epstein's a good is a good human? I mean, as a baby, you're innocent, bro. Is coming out the womb. Huh? I'm saying after you, if you're if you know the full details of a person, you can't say this is a good human or a good person or a heaven-sent human. I mean, you gotta think about it. When you first come down to earth, you come out the womb, you're innocent, you haven't, you have no, you haven't done anything. You're heavy, you're heaven sent. All right, we can just agree to disagree. It's a fact, though. Where's the disagreement at, bro? I explain, I explain my logic, bro. So when you come first, when you're fresh out the womb, when you're fresh out, no, we're not. When you're fresh out the room, are are you bad or good? Bro, I'm not disagreeing with your statement, bro. I'm we're just talking, I just agree with it. I just said I think I still think LaRussell. I'm saying LaRussell could have articulated himself better. Or people, if he were articulated himself in the best way that he that he says he did, people wouldn't have received it the way that they did. Hey, I mean, people can receive it the way they receive it, but I mean it was self-explanatory. Self-explanatory mean you don't have to explain it, which he did multiple times. I mean, for content purposes, but I'm not sure. Why is it for content purposes, bro? I mean, I mean, it's kind of I mean it's his music, and he has fans, people have opinions on his music, they're gonna talk about his music. I mean, what do you mean? What are you talking about? I mean, a lot of artists, a lot of people have a lot of opinions, and a lot of artists they don't come and explain themselves or why they said something. I mean, they some do, some don't, bro. What the hell? Hey man, that like heaven sent is heaven sent, bro. Like, you're coming down from God. All right, bet. Which we all have we which we all come from. Is what? Who? God from the heaven. We'll clip it up, we'll see what the people say. We'll see what the people say. I'm just we'll see what the people say. We definitely can, bro. Because I'm about to type in the definition, because I don't know what you be on, bro. Like I type it in the same thing that we typing in all the time. What, Clegg? I put I'll type Clay. What's what's a claim? I'll put it in, I'll either put it on Claude or Google. My shit says something that me means something or someone that arrives just the right time and feels like a blessing or a gift. That's even worse. What? In some aspects, these people's, these people, Donald Trump was a gift in some aspects in many ways to some people. Was Epstein a gift in many ways to people? Hey, bro, we don't know. We don't know. Nah, I gotta disagree with that boss. The predatory shit, I mean, hey, I gotta disagree with that boss, hey. That's just me. So why does it why did America use him? Why did America use him? Yeah. Not use him, but like they did business with him in some shape, form, or fashion. I mean, based off the files it reads, because the boy blackmailed people. That's probably why he did business with him. Nah, he just didn't come in the game blackmailing people. I mean, that's quite literally what he was, I guess he was hired to do. Um but he was obviously an asset in some some aspects. Hey, I just my my whole point is I wouldn't call him Heaven Sent. That's just me. Everything's every everything's POV at the end of the day, bro. I hear you. I'm sorry, like I said, we just agree, we disagree on this one. But heaven sent is just a plethora of things. Okay. Um but that's why I got on topic today. Are we missing anything? Oh, yeah. I was just wondering before we go, like, what was that one? You said what was that? You said you just said Yukon was just a pop, a pop song that you were talking about. You said what? That was the song that you're referring to? I said it was one of the pop pop uh records on there. Okay. That's what that's what I said. Why? You said Daisy's what, Neo Soul? No, I didn't. Yeah, you didn't. I didn't. I mean, that's okay. It's gonna be on the record, though. It's gonna be on the record. It's on the record. We got that clip. That's the beginning of the joint. I know you were trying to expose, but I caught you before you could do it. Do what? I literally said, yo, I literally could be wrong. I could be saying the wrong fucking song. Yeah. So I mean it's not that big of a deal. It's literally not that serious. Well, I know it wasn't. I'm just saying. But for the record, because I knew you were gonna try and do that. Do what? Nothing. It's cool. Um, but that's all I got for this episode of the Face of the Future podcast. It's your boy, Millie. Peace.